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30s HT: turned FD on paired bord with flopped oc's, A turn 30s HT: turned FD on paired bord with flopped oc's, A turn
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07-11-2013 , 06:38 AM
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Villain too tight preflop, but showed remarkable competence postflop with choosing his betsizings, calling down & understanding ranges.

    Poker Stars, $29.37 Buy-in (10/20 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #18345111

    Hero (BB): 420 (21 bb)
    SB: 580 (29 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with J 8
    SB raises to 40, Hero calls 20

    Flop: (80) 3 3 7 (2 players)
    Hero checks, SB bets 45, Hero calls 45

    Turn: (170) A (2 players)
    Hero checks, SB bets 65, Hero??



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    Villains range after his turn bet (with this betsize!) is probably capped below at 7x+. What should my game plan be like accordingly?

    If i choose to be passive & just call turn, can i call for odds with a flushdraw ott if i believe he's not gonna stick in a lot of chips if i donk into him on the river when the flush arrives when he has less then a set?

    How do YOU do the math in determining whether you can profitably continue on the turn?
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    07-11-2013 , 08:17 AM
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    If you decide to c/jam turn you will be jamming 335 chips into a current pot of 235. 335 + 235 = 570. 335/570= ~58% of the time the jam needs to work to be profitable. So then the question becomes, does 58% of his turn betting range fold to a jam? In practice, I think this is a fine spot to jam if you think he will try to rep Ax with his entire range.
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    07-11-2013 , 03:05 PM
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    Yeah... Thing is would you pick 65 into 170 pot as a betsize if you try to rep Ax with your bluffrange?
    I wouldn't... So probably his range is different here & my foldequity could be either very low or non existent
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    07-11-2013 , 03:40 PM
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    I just ck/f flop vs that cbet size from very tight opener. Though if this is their standard sizing and they cbet a lot like 75/80%+, I just ck/r and barrel as there are soo many good turn/river combos which can improve our hand or make them fold.

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