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30dol turbo. Shove or raise shallow flopping a pair. 30dol turbo. Shove or raise shallow flopping a pair.

04-07-2015 , 01:13 PM
I would usually just shove in this spot but thought it might be better to raise. On an A or K turn, i think i should be checking though cause no more value vs other 6x and i could let villain bluff his gutshots.

Or would you only non-all in raise this vs some more agro villains who play back more often?

PokerStars - $28.78+$1.22|40/80 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 1,928
Hero (BB): 1,072

SB posts SB 40, Hero posts BB 80

Pre Flop: (pot: 120) Hero has 6 Q

SB raises to 160, Hero calls 80

Flop: (320, 2 players) 7 6 7
Hero checks, SB bets 134, Hero raises to 268, SB calls 134

Turn: (856, 2 players) K
Hero bets 644 and is all-in
30dol turbo. Shove or raise shallow flopping a pair. Quote
04-08-2015 , 08:29 AM
Fold preflop? Don't think we can call this with the only intention to stack when we hit piece of the board.
As played probably x/r all in on flop.
As played I am x/c turn.
30dol turbo. Shove or raise shallow flopping a pair. Quote
04-08-2015 , 10:02 AM
yeah, folding pre. it is not even suuuited. and again no info about villains tendencies. like hes button raiser or what.
dont say "i will usually do this in this spot" it depends! vs 90% btn raiser im shoving pre here. vs 50-60% folding. can see the situation where i can flat pre with this hand at this stacks. maybe if vilain potsize cbeting 100% on the flop then it would be v. profitable x/push i guess.
as played I would check/raise but not check/minraise. like 290. and shoving on the turn as you did. i would do the same w 7x. pot is bigger than we have left. dont see the point in checking the turn.
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04-08-2015 , 12:53 PM
This is for sure a flat pre and you can go even wider. Sean Anthony is a coach on husng.com and he calls every Qx here for high card value. Q6 belongs to like a 55% defending range, so if you fold this you are folding iikely so many hands villain can raise any 2 profitably.
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04-08-2015 , 02:10 PM
Yeah but would V adjust if you defent less than 50%. I doubt many ppl raise 100% at this stack size. They limp, they fold|(cause they scared of commiting 10% of their stack against potential shove), they shove,they trap their nut hands etc.
Calling with this hand is ok if you have a plan that goes beyond "if I flop a pair I am going all-in" ....and you assume villain minraise range is not too strong.
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04-08-2015 , 02:59 PM
People dont need to be raising a 100% to make Q 6 profitable. Raising even 40-50% is absolutely fine cause when they raise 40-50%, they are also limping lots of middling hands often and shoving lots of small pairs and Ax, so its not exactly "top 40-50% of hands".
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04-08-2015 , 07:06 PM
i like how this is played, i think turn is a check tho imo
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