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30dol turbo. 3b pot turn dilemma with underpair readless. 30dol turbo. 3b pot turn dilemma with underpair readless.

04-16-2015 , 10:24 AM
In 10 hands he had opened 4/5 hands 2.5x sizing. Folded to a cbet 1/2 times and raised cbet 1 time. So i assume we can actually make a read that he is not a complete fish? Or does it really make much of a difference on the line to take here after just 10 hands even if villain had been limping some aswell?

The turncard would be a great card to bluff at since villains likely range is A high, smaller pp and flushdraws, some 7x aswell. But i feel like if we bet the turn, we will very often fold out pretty much everything but hands that beat us. So is the best line here to check-call turn and check-call RIVER aswell vs missed flushdraws?

Or would we need more reads on villain to be able to bluffcatch a blank river after check-calling turn?

PokerStars - $28.78+$1.22|10/20 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 1,534 (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 44.44, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
Hero (BB): 1,466

SB posts SB 10, Hero posts BB 20

Pre Flop: (pot: 30) Hero has 8 8

SB raises to 50, Hero raises to 150, SB calls 100

Flop: (300, 2 players) 7 3 3
Hero bets 150, SB calls 150

Turn: (600, 2 players) K
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04-16-2015 , 02:03 PM
Personally I would 3bet a little smaller 135.

There is not much reason to slow down on this turn. While its kinda bad for our exact hand, he can't really rep this card so we should bet almost all of our cbets on this turn. Not fun to b/c the turn, but I think thats probably the best line overall.

I wouldn't ness read him as reg, just as 'someone who like likely read a poker book at least' knows what a bluff is, 'not a total fish', etc, and go from there.
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04-16-2015 , 02:47 PM
When you bet turn what u do on blank rivers? Dont see how betcalling shove on turn could be good. K high flop floats arent that rare.
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04-16-2015 , 03:33 PM
But you are just representing a barrel and it is hard for you to have a K as well (you should have prob your whole range betting this turn imo). Most rivers I'd c/c or c/f. I don't really see any point in turning our hand into a bluff on A or spade. On blank rivers I think probably c/c is best value.

Last edited by Regret$; 04-16-2015 at 03:40 PM.
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04-16-2015 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Regret$
But you are just representing a barrel and it is hard for you to have a K as well (you should have prob your whole range betting this turn imo). Most rivers I'd c/c or c/f. I don't really see any point in turning our hand into a bluff on A or spade. On blank rivers I think probably c/c is best value.
Yea, i didnt mean we should bet the river but if we can bluffcatch vs an unknown. As in, do unknowns bluff their missed flushdraw there often enough.
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04-16-2015 , 05:28 PM
Those of course, but this board is pretty dry considering the preflop action. I would mostly expect to pick off positional floats and Ax that decides isn't good any more, as much as missed fd. Also if this guy is not a reg, then he is most likely an aggrofish.
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04-16-2015 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Regret$
Those of course, but this board is pretty dry considering the preflop action. I would mostly expect to pick off positional floats and Ax that decides isn't good any more, as much as missed fd. Also if this guy is not a reg, then he is most likely an aggrofish.
Dont think the majority of people will be calling a turn cbet with Ax or some weak floats readless. But its still a check-call i assume vs even just randoms missed flushdraws.
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04-17-2015 , 04:48 PM
What do you guys think of betting small here ott ? Like 150-200 ?

7x stay in, Ahi float might come along and FD won't raise that often because they have good pot odds ? Then we can eventually c/c a brick otr.

I don't think we get raised bluff that often at the beginning of the game.
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04-19-2015 , 11:06 AM
^ya and I would bet just a little less on this flop too
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