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12-01-2011 , 06:00 AM

Dalglish

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 448

Poker Stars, $28.78 Buy-in (25/50 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BB: 1,440 (28.8 bb)
Hero (SB): 1,560 (31.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q

Hero raises to 100, BB calls 50

Flop: (200) 2

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 100, BB raises to 200, Hero calls 100

Turn: (600) 3

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (600) 6

(2 players)
BB bets 300, Hero raises to 1,260 and is all-in, BB calls 840 and is all-in

Villain is loose passive, has min check raised two flops so far, both on dry Axx boards, i folded to both. Standard river shove here or is flatting better?

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12-01-2011 , 06:19 AM

crazyriver

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,732

I like this shove.

Although the min raise by a passive guy nearly always means the nuts, I think he's always calling you with an 8x there, just because your hand doesn't look strong at all, especially as not many draws hit.
But I'm not sure, I'd consider folding the flop. The only thing opose to it is the fact that you said he c/minr'ed dry flops so far, which is pretty weird by such guy.

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12-01-2011 , 06:49 AM

ohly

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,696

i don't think he ck/mr 45 here, A6 and K6 aren't that likely either. all the 2 pairs and sets should barrel turn as well. with such a narrow range of hands beating you, i am always shoving this, keeping in mind that there are tons of worse 6x and 8x is calling a decent percentage, too.

please post results after discussion, i think it is very insightful in this case.

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12-01-2011 , 09:36 AM

TiltALot

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 137

Quote:

Originally Posted by ohly

all the 2 pairs and sets should barrel turn as well.

They don't always..

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12-01-2011 , 10:44 AM

collinstation

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 118

I'd shove, because i Don't think he's gonna fold 8x that fast, and you really beat a lot. If this would've been a aggro/spewy villain, i would have liked to click it back to give him a chance to spazz out.

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12-01-2011 , 10:51 AM

tjobim

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 447

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12-02-2011 , 02:06 PM

Dalglish

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 448

i think i still like my shove, just turned out he had 86s.

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12-02-2011 , 03:16 PM

DrayeN

newbie

Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 16

I'm putting 8x in his range, I think a bet on turn would have given you a better idea of his hand strength. Bad luck with the 86s, but with the info you had shove was probably the correct call.

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