Villain unknown. First hand he minraised then potted Q98 and potted K turn with no flushdraws on board. Second hand I 3x he folds.

iPoker reg speed 10/20 level, effective stacks 1400.

He limps btn I check with 86ss

Flop (40) comes 4d 7s 3s

I bet 40, he makes it 160. What is my best option? Call? 3bet and size?

Why you potting flop? Call and see a turn now.

I (check) raise gii alot of the time, if he has a 7x/56/A5/55+ or smthin I think you can do anything pretty much except fold, I like to GII on flop bc cards to come can scare him and we lose some action and our equity is better (i think) when getting in on flop.

Spams made a good post in one of my threads about which option is better depending on what u think villain will do but your readless so it prob doesnt apply.

so you're checking or minbetting instead?


edit: I'm potting flop because I want to build a pot, not sure if he's gonna bet pot or 60 or betting at all so I bet by myself.

So your function to type in not big blind increments is gone?

Hmmm, so you think betting 30 is better than 40?

I actually bet, 3bet here. Not sure why a 12 outer isn't something we should throw into that range.
I would play a 12-out draw EXACTLY the same as I would play a set. I don't raise 77 preflop when limped to, so I could have any set, two pair, or combodraw.

As for sizing, I would pot the original bet and pot the raise.

Getting it in here means having 40-50% equity if you ask me, and rarely fold-equity. Balancing your range is stupid.
Thanks for pointing out this totally unuseful fact.

I would have played this hand more aggressively before reading spamz posts in a lot of threads where this situation comes up. Basically flatting his raise here is going to make the hand play out a lot better. If we get it in we're usually around 40-50%, which is fine, I mean its going to ev plus to reraise here get it in against most villians. We'll fold all of his air, and some of the weaker 4's that decided to raise, and overs that have some equity. but if we flat the turn his air ballz are mostly going to shut down, and if we hit turn and get it in there we're pretty much a lock, a lot of the times 7's shuts down when an over hits giving us a free river. When he overbet jams turn it kinda sucks but other then that I think these are the reasons that make a call best. Does this sound right?

out of curiosity: why do you want to build a big pot with a draw? worse odds to hit and less implied odds? the only reason i can think of is to maximize your fold equity, but you will do just fine by betting t30 on the flop.

yeah nice post.

just a small thing, to most people posting strat:

Please, pleaaaaaase stop saying c/r when the guy who raises is in position, stop saying stuff like "I cbh here" when you're oop on the river, try get actions and positions right. It's tilting as hell and most of the time, I don't know if you're just used to typing "cr" everywhere and typoed, or if you just don't know in what position the players are.

agreed.

I thought spamz was questioning my lead, but it's a matter of size apparently. I don't see much difference between 30 or 40, but if there are multiple posters who think 30 is better I won't argue.

I am trying to build a pot because I have a slightly better than usual draw (more equity) and want to get paid off easier when I hit.

why cant you cr if the guy is in position? i wasnt talking about cring his raise obv, i meant i would of done it if i thought he would fold to a lead but cbet and call/jam our cr

He was talking about my post not urs.

EDIT: and sorry guys I just woke up after a 12 hour shift of driving cab, I'm a little zombified

lol leeeeeeee, I didnt say this because of your post It's magnanimity who said I got c/r for example, or in another thread, hero is oop on the river with TP, some guy says he "cbh" there.

Think about the percentages of the pot and it will be different. Or you can do fold equity math. Or if you play a lot, you should feel that against many opponents 20 is too small and 40 is unnecessarily large.

And I also like flatting the reraise - you have great implied odds because it was limped. If your SPR was smaller and shoving wouldn't be that large of an overbet, I'd prefer that.

my bad bro, lead 30 then i guessm just dont really know why we dont want more chips in here when villains always cbet wide early and we have a monster that can gii on the flop if need be, isnt in bad shape if he flats and we can make a huge pot with better implied odds that ppl are assuming itt

edit: im not cring here with his sizing though if i did check and just flatting as played

I mad a small 3bet to 330 which apparently I shouldn't have.

He calls.

Turn Js pot is 700, I lead? small? big? check? I lead something like 1/3 pot, bad?

jam, raise flop so stacks are > psb on turn, J turn is a pretty good card for us if you wanted to play it that way, prob just listen to spamz, lead and keep the pots small to avoid the bs of being oop