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05-31-2013 , 03:55 AM
PokerStars - $29.37+$0.63|10/20 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): 24.5 BB
SB: 25.5 BB (VPIP: 72.63, PFR: 65.85, 3Bet Preflop: 31.58, Hands: 110)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K 7

SB raises to 2 BB, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (4 BB, 2 players) K Q 6
Hero checks, SB bets 2 BB, Hero raises to 4.75 BB, SB calls 2.75 BB

Turn: (13.5 BB, 2 players) T
Hero checks, SB bets 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB

River: (21.5 BB, 2 players) T
Hero checks, SB checks

Hero shows K 7 (Two Pair, Kings and Tens) (Pre 63%, Flop 66%, Turn 50%)
SB shows K 4 (Two Pair, Kings and Tens) (Pre 37%, Flop 34%, Turn 50%)
Hero wins 10.75 BB
SB wins 10.75 BB



I think the flat is standard pre, and the flop ch/r as well. He might stack off with Qx or with FD on the flop and I beat a few Kx also. The turn Ts is one of worst card for me, and I would probably just ch/fold If Villain raised a half pot or more. On the river I think I would ch/fold as well if he jam.
Any reason to Ch/call the flop or to bet the turn?

Last edited by Karcsibohoc; 05-31-2013 at 04:05 AM.
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05-31-2013 , 04:05 AM
Well played. I would actually get it in in most instances (by turn or river), not fold that much, since villain can have many worse things: worse pairs, 2pairs.
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05-31-2013 , 04:11 AM
I like the way it was played.

I wouldnt be getting this in on the turn fwiw.
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05-31-2013 , 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Melkien
Well played. I would actually get it in in most instances (by turn or river), not fold that much, since villain can have many worse things: worse pairs, 2pairs.

Actually no, my opinion changes radically. OP did you change the hand postflop or did I actually just see it wrong? I could have swore there was a 3c on the turn and something different river, thats is why I was getting it in.
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05-31-2013 , 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Melkien
Actually no, my opinion changes radically. OP did you change the hand postflop or did I actually just see it wrong? I could have swore there was a 3c on the turn and something different river, thats is why I was getting it in.
Yes, sorry I changed the hand after I posted. It was K7o oop as well but a totally different board.
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05-31-2013 , 05:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Karcsibohoc
PokerStars - $29.37+$0.63|10/20 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): 24.5 BB
SB: 25.5 BB (VPIP: 72.63, PFR: 65.85, 3Bet Preflop: 31.58, Hands: 110)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K 7

SB raises to 2 BB, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (4 BB, 2 players) K Q 6
Hero checks, SB bets 2 BB, Hero raises to 4.75 BB, SB calls 2.75 BB

Turn: (13.5 BB, 2 players) T
Hero checks, SB bets 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB

River: (21.5 BB, 2 players) T
Hero checks, SB checks

Hero shows K 7 (Two Pair, Kings and Tens) (Pre 63%, Flop 66%, Turn 50%)
SB shows K 4 (Two Pair, Kings and Tens) (Pre 37%, Flop 34%, Turn 50%)
Hero wins 10.75 BB
SB wins 10.75 BB



I think the flat is standard pre, and the flop ch/r as well. He might stack off with Qx or with FD on the flop and I beat a few Kx also. The turn Ts is one of worst card for me, and I would probably just ch/fold If Villain raised a half pot or more. On the river I think I would ch/fold as well if he jam.
Any reason to Ch/call the flop or to bet the turn?
If your f x/R range consists also out FD & OESD; this turn is not a bad card but actually one of the better ones to get for your range. SB range is relatively seen weakened compared to yours. Any semi-decent handreading player will have a hard time to pick wathever possible line facing a turn barrel.

By essentially x turn, you turn your H face up because:
- why on earth would you x a flush that would get action of ie Kx+ and a spade draw?
- why on earth would you x a 2P+ hand that is still good enough to value barrel?
- why on earth would you x a spade draw with some pair that has some fair amount of FE and can still be good?

x means you have good certainity reads that their are almost no spade draws left in opponent range, not plausible imo.
x mean you have good reads opp will fire turn wider then him calling a barrel
x means you have reads opp will fire turn and stacks off lighter vs him shoving over a t barrel
...
none very likely

SB did actually a great job firing turn; in his place I would have fired a bigger size & a wide range vs you
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05-31-2013 , 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Emus
If your f x/R range consists also out FD & OESD; this turn is not a bad card but actually one of the better ones to get for your range. SB range is relatively seen weakened compared to yours. Any semi-decent handreading player will have a hard time to pick wathever possible line facing a turn barrel.

By essentially x turn, you turn your H face up because:
- why on earth would you x a flush that would get action of ie Kx+ and a spade draw?
- why on earth would you x a 2P+ hand that is still good enough to value barrel?
- why on earth would you x a spade draw with some pair that has some fair amount of FE and can still be good?

x means you have good certainity reads that their are almost no spade draws left in opponent range, not plausible imo.
x mean you have good reads opp will fire turn wider then him calling a barrel
x means you have reads opp will fire turn and stacks off lighter vs him shoving over a t barrel
...
none very likely

SB did actually a great job firing turn; in his place I would have fired a bigger size & a wide range vs you
great analysis!
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05-31-2013 , 06:27 AM
xraise bigger 100-110 and barrel , pretty sure fish will call down Qx very offten, and he also can have some gutshot or Tx and spade and if you check you cant fold to turn bet just because flush hit, he can bet many hands you are still ahead, like all hands listed above.
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06-01-2013 , 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Emus
If your f x/R range consists also out FD & OESD; this turn is not a bad card but actually one of the better ones to get for your range. SB range is relatively seen weakened compared to yours. Any semi-decent handreading player will have a hard time to pick wathever possible line facing a turn barrel.

By essentially x turn, you turn your H face up because:
- why on earth would you x a flush that would get action of ie Kx+ and a spade draw?
- why on earth would you x a 2P+ hand that is still good enough to value barrel?
- why on earth would you x a spade draw with some pair that has some fair amount of FE and can still be good?

x means you have good certainity reads that their are almost no spade draws left in opponent range, not plausible imo.
x mean you have good reads opp will fire turn wider then him calling a barrel
x means you have reads opp will fire turn and stacks off lighter vs him shoving over a t barrel
...
none very likely

SB did actually a great job firing turn; in his place I would have fired a bigger size & a wide range vs you
That's make sense. Thank you for this.
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06-01-2013 , 03:38 AM
I agree with none888 definitely barrel the turn
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06-02-2013 , 12:38 AM
Definitely bet turn, I mean you do worse hands such a huge favour by checking the turn and if villain bets, I do absoluty agree with none888 here, what should villain hold in his range we beat? Not much
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