His 1st 3b. Should this turn be checked by A K-A J in villains shoes or can you still see more combos of Ax to get 3 streets from?
Would you prefer checking back turn with J 9 and bluffing rivers when checked to? Or is there too much value in bluffing on the turn right away, since we dont want to give villains K highs or any pocket pairs a reason to bluffcatch a river blank after turn is checked vs all the missed draws?

Microgaming - 15/30 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 2,210
BB: 1,790 (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)

Hero posts SB 15, BB posts BB 30

Pre Flop: (pot: 45) Hero has J 9

Hero raises to 60, BB raises to 210, Hero calls 150

Flop: (420, 2 players) 8 A 7
BB bets 210, Hero calls 210

Turn: (840, 2 players) 8
BB checks, Hero bets 285, BB calls 285

River: (1,410, 2 players) 3
BB checks,Hero

I would fold flop here with no diamond on board. As played, yeah bet turn and river shove is a good play here.

If you check back turn he's not likely to believe you have an 8. You might peel a free card w/ a flush draw but I think most people will bluff those on the turn as well.

As villain I'm always checking this turn with AK unless my opponent is a huge calling station.

It would be a very tough call for villain with only an ace if you jam the river when the flush comes in.


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First of all you don't know villains tendencies since you have only 18 hands vs him,
For sure his preflop raise tell you something that he has Ax or totally pure bluff you make mistakes by raising the flop since you're hand has some equity you could played better by reraise preflop and put him on tough spot you could take down immediately there so you should play the player not the cards here you could make here like 475 or 530 if has anything he could jam with top 12% and fold the rest because he doesn't know that you're reraise is for informations.


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that's an extremely bad advice and is a very poor reasoning. No matter what you're trying to exploit it's pretty obvious how important it is to do it with the right type of hands

I really don't know what to say about this thread, but I'm very interested on getting some perspective of what the right play might be. I only play micros ($1.50-$3.50) and I always fold to a 3b with J9s early on in the match, and this more conservative approach works really well at the 1.50-3.50 level (I crush the games, not to brag though cuz it's real easy and I've been playing poker a long time).

I suppose shoving AI would make more sense with a gutshot than calling the bet? I'm more on the side of the person of the person that says you should just fold the flop, calling a 210 chip bet certainly doesn't justify winning the little stack our opponent has.

But like I said, I don't have any experience at this level, so I look forward to more people weighing in.

Yeah I would fold flop at 1.5s-3.5s for sure (unless I choose to not care), but GTO wouldn't.

The line is obviously fine especially since you don't mind folding vs x/r.

Folding flop vs plenty of villains can be fine, though of course theoretically calling is correct. With that said, folding to the 3b (Calvy) is quite terrible with a hand like this.

Turn lead looks good; I would be pretty tempted to jam river here, but not really sure if it's necessary. Also not sure we have the best combo for it as we block some potential bluffs and don't even have a club.

You aren't getting him to fold a ton on the river once he calls turn (he should fold some AX i think). average reg probably barrels AJ-AK about half the time, maybe more.

So since you rep several 8's and the flush for value and he very rarely has either and this is your worst hand on the river other than 96 and T9 i think you should bluff river. I think J9 is one of your best bluffs here because T9 blocks him having T9 and he is more likely to fold A6 (which 96 blocks) than AJ.