what do you thing about this hand ?, do i have the odds to call, villian haved call my ceck raises a lot,,,but he is represents a big hand here

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Hero (BB): t2180 72.67 BBs
BTN/SB: t820 27.33 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BB with 6 A
BTN/SB raises to t60, Hero calls t30

Flop: (t120) J 5 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t30, Hero raises to t90, BTN/SB calls t60

Turn: (t300) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets t150, BTN/SB raises to t670 all in
Hero ????

either a straight or two pair IMO

easy fold unless u have some other read

Your call pre is pretty meh.

Your flop c/r size is lol bad.

Your chips should have been in either on the flop/turn or returned to your stack before having this decision.

IMO that call is okay actually.

That call is super standard, i think ck/r flop 120-150 and jam any turn.
lol this is the worst turn card ever made ck/c if the bet is ok fold if shoved to?

Lol at the pf fold.

Check-raise flop bigger. Obv lead any turn if you c/r flop (bet bigger obv, your sizing is really off here imo).

I'm not sure about check/calling this turn. Hm? I agree it's one of the worst cards in the deck. I'm afraid villain will just jam if we check to him and we have to fold if this happens (i guess?).

Jam pre obv.

were you on drugs when you made this post?

Preflop is super call as pretty much any suited A is calling a min raise unless we choose to 3 bet.

The only thing bad about the flop c/r is that its to small but c/r this flop is more than fine

How are we getting stacks in exactly on flop with these stacks? And the bb shoved turn so money can get in there

Lol

i would make it bigger on flop like 120, that would make it t360 pot then turn i would make like 320 to commit yourself. I would do the same w Jx and sets on this texture, of course he will have 78 occasionally but that only one super bad hand for us in his range

pre - super standart

lol wat

Don't jam pre.Rly hate turn sizing,call as played.

Just curious what you guys are calling with pre here. If not A6s, why not A2s? If A2s, how far on the offsuits A?

A2s+, A8o+, K8s+, KTo+ (maybe K9o?), Q8s+, Q9o+, J7s(?)+, J8o(?)+, T8s+, T8o(?)+, 97s+, 97o(?)+?, 86s+, 86o(?)+, 75s+(?), 76o(?), 65s, 65o(?), 54s(?)

??? This seem like a reasonable range for 20-30bb deep?

So play oop 30% of the time with 85% being call and 3-bet 15% of the time?

any suited A and A8o+

edit - nm im in a good mood

Im calling any A here i think i can play it profitably vs weak players but i would fold 97o and similar gappers-connectors sometimes even if its suited.

your range dont have to be like this "pokerstove % thing" because you must exploit villain here not balance your range, and your edge vs weak villain gonna come from playing better cards then his on avg so playing tight oop with these shallow stacks i think is best

I think you jam pre/tell people to jam pre way too much. I mean, it depends on pfr% etc, like, if he only raises 30-40% jamming is a mistake(depends on calling range as well obv). 80%+ it is ok I guess but I do think in most cases at 27bb calling and playing post is best.

If say he raised 3x to 90 and opening was 60%+ jam is best(with a much wider range too(http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/58...ective-444194/)).. I start jamming over minraises pre <20bb with suited aces etc if pfr% is above 70%, but it obv depends on other things too, like if I know he folds too much to those shoves etc. (then you can shove 89s etc as well).

defending A6o here but not a hand like 97s looks pretty ******ed tbh, esp > 25bb's effective stacks

call pre is fine, esp with suited ace

calling pre here near 100% and whenever i'm not i'm jamming, stacks are kinda awkward for your flop raise sizing and turn pot to stack ratio, i just call the cbet and go from there, as played i call the shove

Borderline, what is your borderline for defending in this spot? I mean, would you call with A8o or A9o?

Raise flop to 200-250 and shovel all turns.

I think it's OK as played. Now call turn.

I'll admit, defending oop 20-30bb is one of my bigger leaks and I probably shove way too wide in this spot (or rather way too wide vs a minraise (if villain 3x'ed it pre, i'd be shipping it in here a lot, not sure if this is a leak).

But yeah.. I'm probably way too tight here, although maybe that's because I'm a spewy call station postflop whenever I feel I have a chance to win, and fold when I have no chance (i.e. flop is like J74 and i c/f to his half pot cbet).

Can't give you a real good estimate on the Axo/Axs I call with here. I probably should get HEM to see.

If I had to guess, I'd say my defend range is around 20% here.. Which is probably a bit too low (esp since I'm going to 3bet about 5-6% of that range)..

I agree with this flop/turn play.

grunching: call pre is totally standard/optimal without more reads. These stack sizes look good to bet/3b all in on this flop. If you are going to check raise, make it larger and shove turn. We want to get as much money in on this flop as possible while our equity is so good.

As played, call shove.