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04-04-2017 , 03:33 PM

URagnatha

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PokerStars - $2.76+$0.24|10/20 NL (3 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 29 BB
BB: 28 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
BTN: 18 BB (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 2

fold, Hero raises to 2.2 BB, BB calls 1.2 BB

Flop: (4.4 BB, 2 players) 7

Hero checks, BB checks

Turn: (4.4 BB, 2 players) K

Hero bets 2.2 BB, BB calls 2.2 BB

River: (8.8 BB, 2 players) Q

Hero bets 4.4 BB, BB calls 4.4 BB

Spoiler:

ok open? K2 o plays bad oop but BB seams tight. ok not to c bet here keeps pot smaller to sometimes release equity from checking k high down? but maybe c bet would be plus ev if he is tight postflop like he seams pre? flop hits his range harder then my perceived range? Ok to value bet river here?

lots of questions here. new to format and series of spots looked marginal.

Last edited by URagnatha; 04-04-2017 at 03:37 PM. Reason: .

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04-05-2017 , 07:24 AM

URagnatha

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I'm thinking check call on river may of been better to get value from busted drawers but then would be missing value from qx which would call vb on river but his qx range shouldn't be very wide now?
Also would probably have to call more then hp bet on river so saving a few chips when beaten if villain decides to value bet more?

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04-05-2017 , 08:16 AM

URagnatha

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I'm not saying vb on river can only be called by qx obviously can get called wider then that IMO. what I meant was if we check call villain may well check hands as strong as qx behind and we miss value.
Is a tight player going to bluff river often here when checked to?

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04-05-2017 , 08:58 AM

siebenacht

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Grunching, bc i still suck in this format:

pre is totally fine, but limping is fine as well, just don't fold

flop i like cbetting more, bc we have a range advantage to the coldcoller on such low ragged boards. He could have a lot of 9x, 8x though.
As played turn is tricky, because for one it brings us a terrible quality flushdraw and a top pair which is a reason to valuebet, but it might be also a great opportunity to represent weakness and potcontrol, since our hand is pretty much safe, except for some straight-outs. So i dont mind either option.
River is whatever, as long as you dont bet huge.

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