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Old 05-07-2021, 10:57 AM   #1
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25s spin: Over pair on board paired against turn bet

PokerStars - 15/30 NL (3 max) - Holdem - 3 players
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BTN: 540
Hero (SB): 586
BB: 374

Hero posts SB 15, BB posts BB 30

Pre Flop: (pot: 45) Hero has T T

fold, Hero calls 15, BB checks

Flop: (60, 2 players) 7 9 7
Hero bets 30, BB raises to 75, Hero calls 45

Turn: (210, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, BB bets 158, [color=red]Hero ?
Please don't consider the limp pre.. i had a few reads for it.
Oppo is unknown, but in a couple of earlier spots he had been minibetting for value on the river. This is imho a very oppo dependant spot, as against a nitty player the size of the turn may make it a fold... I don't think he would bet draws so big and I block a few incidentally.
What do you think? what would you do if there were a flush draw as well?

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Old 05-08-2021, 07:15 PM   #2
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Re: 25s spin: Over pair on board paired against turn bet

What are your entire reads on the opponent (including the ones that made you limp here)?
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Old 05-09-2021, 05:29 AM   #3
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Re: 25s spin: Over pair on board paired against turn bet

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What are your entire reads on the opponent (including the ones that made you limp here)?
the reason I limped is that he had a high iso %. I also saw him minibetting for value a couple of times
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Old 05-10-2021, 12:08 PM   #4
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Re: 25s spin: Over pair on board paired against turn bet

Getting such good odds and with so little info, I wouldn't fold. I think it's close though. Would fold AA-QQ, I guess.
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Old 05-11-2021, 03:56 PM   #5
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Re: 25s spin: Over pair on board paired against turn bet

All right, I felt it was a close spot. Ty
Do you always call the river at that point?
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Old 05-11-2021, 06:18 PM   #6
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Re: 25s spin: Over pair on board paired against turn bet

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All right, I felt it was a close spot. Ty
Do you always call the river at that point?
Yea, I can't see folding any river.
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Old 05-12-2021, 05:10 AM   #7
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Re: 25s spin: Over pair on board paired against turn bet

if we are calling turn and river, isnt shoving turn better than?
BB has basically nothing left behind, and Id hate to see him checking 9 on the river and if he has better hand we lose anyway.
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Old 05-12-2021, 03:34 PM   #8
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if we are calling turn and river, isnt shoving turn better than?
BB has basically nothing left behind, and Id hate to see him checking 9 on the river and if he has better hand we lose anyway.
def just jam turn. tbh i thought villain was all in on turn when i first reviewed this one.
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Old 05-18-2021, 02:25 PM   #9
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Re: 25s spin: Over pair on board paired against turn bet

why not c/r flop?
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Old 05-20-2021, 05:33 PM   #10
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Re: 25s spin: Over pair on board paired against turn bet

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why not c/r flop?
You mean 3b? I like this option the most.

And I am not sure about checking OOP, as I don't play spins. Anyway, we can't be certain, that villain will bet his whole range here. And our hand is quite vulnerable on a plenty of runouts.

Anyway, how you doing ohly? Long time no see. I remember seeing you in the HU lobbies.
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