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 -Bluff catching (spew?) with KQ vs an overbetter  -Bluff catching (spew?) with KQ vs an overbetter

12-16-2010 , 11:07 AM
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reads= guy was uber aggro and I felt his overbets were air/ draws
loser big time on SS

c/c flop>crai turn Qc7d7c8c first hand

limp/call, shove all in over my cbet 853r

loses a hand, 3bai or open to 10x preflop

Villian has limped 5ish times iirc, and this is the second one I have raised


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Hero (BB): t990.00 49.50 BBs
BTN/SB: t2010.00 100.50 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with K Q
BTN/SB calls t10, Hero raises to t60, BTN/SB calls t40

Flop: (t120) 3 9 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB checks

Turn: (t120) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t220.00, Hero calls t220

River: (t560) A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t1730.00, Hero calls t710 all in
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12-16-2010 , 11:19 AM
Imho, that's fancy hero call syndrome.

Also: loses a hand, 3bai or open to 10x preflop. Play for value.
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12-16-2010 , 11:23 AM
I don't think I would fold any 3 so I can't hate it too much given proper reads but I am a massive spewmonkey. :P Really doubt he is betting the turn like this with an ace.
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12-16-2010 , 11:24 AM
I like it.
He certainly doesn't hit the A since he didn't go all in preflop even though you gave him the opportunity to, he's uber aggro so he's not checking back 8 or 9 on flop. It seems to me he's polarized btw air and the really random 3. sucks when he flips over 55 though
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12-16-2010 , 11:49 AM
i cant decide here i think i fold tbh

a lot of players will check back a draw here on the flop and then realise they have no showdown and bluff the turn but that ace should smack u in the face and even fish are scared by that card.
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12-16-2010 , 12:19 PM
I don't hate it but vs this kind of ****** I'm sure you can find much better spots
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12-16-2010 , 12:40 PM
it confuses me why you wouldn't cbet, but you will call of almost a twice pot sized bet on the turn.

you may be good, but i'm never playing the hand like this, +1x10^99999 that you can find better spots.
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12-16-2010 , 01:03 PM
I see uber aggros checking back weaker showdown and mosters on flops all the time, so I still think there's some 8s/FHs in his range. Having said that like most people I don't hate it or love it, but I'd prefer to bet the flop and call a shove there than go into call down mode like this.
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12-16-2010 , 01:28 PM
Thing is from my perspective his line is more consistent with an ace, 9 or 8 than a 3 but I don't really expect to see any of these very much so it just comes down to how often he is tard shoving.
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12-16-2010 , 01:36 PM
This is so marginal, I'm sure you could of found the cliché'd "better spot" against described villain.
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12-16-2010 , 06:29 PM
also he was insta betting not sure what kind of tell that is.

I didnt bet because I felt he would be more inclined to attack my "weakness" when I checked.

I def think this is really marginal but wanted thoughts etc.

I felt like we beat a ton of draws ( wouldnt they bet on flop though) so I obv thought a call was EV.

Vs the fish I play, USUALLY big bets followed by all ins are air/ bluffs.

Problem is villian could be bluffing with better
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12-17-2010 , 04:41 AM
bet the flop! fold the turn as played
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12-17-2010 , 05:38 AM
lmao, wp.
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