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23turbo/ confused with trips on river in unraised pot 23turbo/ confused with trips on river in unraised pot

10-11-2010 , 08:51 AM
this is the very first hand.
villains line is strange, cant put him on anything.
what do i now on the river? valuebet , shove, checkbehind?


PokerStars - $22+$1|10/20 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (SB): 1,500.00
BB: 1,500.00

Hero posts SB 10.00, BB posts BB 20.00

Pre Flop: (30.00) Hero has 7 T

Hero calls 10.00, BB checks

Flop: (40.00, 2 players) 7 7 5
BB checks, Hero bets 40.00, BB calls 40.00

Turn: (120.00, 2 players) 4
BB checks, Hero bets 120.00, BB raises to 240.00, Hero raises to 460.00, BB calls 220.00

River: (1040.00, 2 players) 9
BB checks, Hero???
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10-11-2010 , 09:43 AM
I would just call the turn, what do you expect to ge value from? He's rarely doing this with worse for value imo.

Last edited by Air-Bear; 10-11-2010 at 09:54 AM.
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10-11-2010 , 09:47 AM
Think I would flat his turnraise as well. As played, I check behind on the river. (But I'm a nit)
I suppose his stats were fishy?
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10-11-2010 , 10:20 AM
Check. Turn looks perfect.
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10-11-2010 , 10:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dies Irae
Check. Turn looks perfect.
Would you care to elaborate why the turn is perfect?
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10-11-2010 , 10:45 AM
Flat, not because he doesn't do this with worse for value, but because you'll profit alot more from his turn minraising range than you will from his turn 3b calling/jamming range.
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10-11-2010 , 03:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Punch Dancer
Flat, not because he doesn't do this with worse for value, but because you'll profit alot more from his turn minraising range than you will from his turn 3b calling/jamming range.
+1

Man PD, you really puttin out some quality posts today!
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10-11-2010 , 10:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Air-Bear
I would just call the turn, what do you expect to ge value from? He's rarely doing this with worse for value imo.

maybe true. but its a good semibluff spot. a minraise looks strong (i rarely have the seven) and he could do that with hearts or a 6 or even a five expecting me to fold.
actually i prefer to raise on the turn cause there are some cards i dont want to see on the river ( 8,3, every heart) and to not raise i have to exactly put him on a boat or a made straight. isnt this a tiny range? isnt he showing up in this spot with 2 hearts or a 6 more often and if so, can i really let him draw out cheap?

my confused spot is the river. cause now he checks to me.
should i bet small/fold considering the stacksizes or is it a definately checkbehind?
i just dont see anything what beats me and would check to me (a straight perhaps or trips as well with a better kicker).
like said, its the first hand, and if he got a straight he should reraised me on the turn, if he made a flush on the river i think he should bet now to get some value, if he got a boat the same.

so really checkbehind?


PS: yes, his stats were fishy. not much volume, negative roi.
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10-12-2010 , 03:04 AM
36 and 68 are a decent amount of combos, you can't just discount them as being straights.

I really don't expect to see a negative ROI player play hearts like this often at all.
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10-12-2010 , 05:03 AM
raise pre,just call turn
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