This is from a pretty aggro match I lost a couple of days ago. Villain is pretty loose aggro and hates to fold to c bets, check raising or floating them about 50/50. He would probably take this line with a flush draw, an 8, random bluffs, and maybe a 6.
Wasn't sure what to do here. I think it's probably a good hand to do some maths on (how much does he need to be doing this with air/a 6/an 8 to make a shove profitable? is an interesting question). I might try that when my brain isn't fried. In the meantime, thanks for your thoughts....


Poker Stars No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t25.00/t50.00 Blinds - 2 players
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BB: t1505.00 30.10 BBs
Hero (BTN/SB): t1495.00 29.90 BBs

Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is BTN/SB with 3 T
Hero raises to t100, BB calls t50

Flop: (t200) 8 8 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t100.00, BB raises to t300, Hero ???

If hes agro as described, ck/r alot then im happy to ck this flop back.

I generally fold here. Does he have the capacity to bet 500 on a non-diamond turn with a bluff?

I think so... he had been barreling a fair bit. I felt really icky on the flop because he's priced in to call with flush draws and I'm dominated by a bunch of those...

If hes crazy I dont mind checking back the flop and delay cbetting almost every turn card to fold out better air/value our draw.

As played you have odds to flat and see a turn card but im not happy taking that sort of line against this guy bc he will barrel us off alot, if I have better overs/66+ in this situation I jam flop.

Checking behind seems bad if villain is capable of check-raise bluffing a fair amount of the time imo. It even seems bad in general considering your almost always 25%+ equity and how little showdownpotential you have.

It's not hard to calculate how much he has to be bluffing fwiw but I'm not in the mood atm.

no worries, I'll definitely be trying to do the calcs tomorrow

If you cbet here, whats your line if we flat and turn brings J-A non diamond and villain barrels?

If villain checks do you check back with the free draw but no sd value? Or bet again?

If you bet do you call if he shoves?

this

just jam flop imo, get called by 75/97/random 8x and maybe smth you're actually in bad shape against a small % of the time
if he has total airballz in his checkraise range here i dont see how you can not jam

For you guys who fold here:

Do you ever (semi)bluff shove against c/r on paired flops?

If you fold here, what kind of a spot do you 3bet bluff? And btw, our shove ain't even that much bluff.

also, I cbet here atc.

Just jam. Folding is a no-no, calling is terrible, so that leaves just one option... JAAAAAAM it. If he's check raising frequently, we don't want to delay c-bet, we want to jam it in over his c/r.

How often is he flatting your raises OOP? Unless it's a lot, there aren't even that many 8x or 6x hands in his range to begin with.

Don't raise T3s against him, and don't cbet flop he could easily c/r you with air
Check back the flop then, btw as played I think shoving is best...
Many times if villain is aggro like this I'd like to check back and if he is so aggro I would take his stack on the later streets

I wouldn't cbet this board if I wasn't comfortable getting in

+1000000

Well put imo. It's not that this reasoning itself makes c-bet/3-bet a better line, but it should make one think about an overall strategy against aggro players. Our hand has great equity, we should definitely valuebet this. And part of that value is his wide c/r range, against which we are happy to get it in.

fair enough prolly, it's close though
failboat imo

If hes cappable ck/r this board with over/s then im geting it in, but if i have a note that hes ck/r range on this board consist only FD/6x/8x then i like ck back, we have no need to flip a coin if our hand has 0 FE and probably wb, maby he can fold 6x.

What im tryng to say, if ur c-beting this flop then u should stack this flop, if u are un comfort stack flop u can play hand slowly and hit/bet turn+river.

value jam against 79o imo. Pretty easy spot against someone who has been c/r alot.

logic fail in this piece
try to find out where

Shove

We could shove over obv, but if we aren't confident enough, checking is that horrible?

lol WTF@don't cbet this board he can c/r you with air -makes no sense

i'm happily cbetting if i know he c/r light here

checking flop here is terrible vs pretty much anyone imo
try to see why yourself

Well... if the villain is so aggressive he could donk the turn and we gotta fold if we don't improve? Mainly he will taking advantage of our sign of weakness?