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09-26-2010 , 08:10 AM
Villain is a monkey, near 100% vpip from both positions, he's down two matches to me. He stacks with any piece, double floated QQxx oop with K4o when he picked up a 1-card flush draw. Importantly he checked when he binked the 4-flush on the river.

Looking for comments on the river after he takes this line (donk, check/call, check). I'm 100% certain I'm folding if he shoves over a bet, this is really consistent with how he plays value (also he snap jammed). I guess I'd expect him to barrel turn with a bluff some of the time, but to check/call worse 8's, other pairs, etc. Is the river bet too thin? Turn bet too small?



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Hero (BTN/SB): t1470 49 BBs
BB: t1530 51 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BTN/SB with 8 Q
Hero raises to t60, BB calls t30

Flop: (t120) 3 2 8 (2 players)
BB bets t90, Hero calls t90

Turn: (t300) 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t150, BB calls t150

River: (t600) 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t210, BB raises to t1230 all in, Hero requests TIME, Hero folds
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09-26-2010 , 08:23 AM
I'd bet a bit bigger turn cause he has a ton of diamond draws when he donks flop, and I expect them to flat a 2nd barrell.

River I would bet 320ish since I don't want to induce a jam by accident.
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09-26-2010 , 08:26 AM
Im usually allso not confident what line to take and i play turn biger to ck back scary river cards mostly. bet turn 220 and nice pot on the river.

I dont have balls to bet/f river vs monkey they still can bluff and u dont know where u are.
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09-26-2010 , 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by reallymonkeyish
I'd bet a bit bigger turn cause he has a ton of diamond draws when he donks flop, and I expect them to flat a 2nd barrell.

River I would bet 320ish since I don't want to induce a jam by accident.
lol where ever i post u post it first, this is un fair
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09-26-2010 , 08:38 AM
lmao i'm waiting for a plane and bored
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09-26-2010 , 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Haluebet
I dont have balls to bet/f river vs monkey they still can bluff and u dont know where u are.
I disagree with this though. River is a must-bet unless OP has reads that this guy was never flatting marginal hands on the river. So many worse 8s, and 3s might call. I seriously doubt he turns those into bluffs, this guy sounds more passive tbh.
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09-26-2010 , 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by reallymonkeyish
I disagree with this though. River is a must-bet unless OP has reads that this guy was never flatting marginal hands on the river. So many worse 8s, and 3s might call. I seriously doubt he turns those into bluffs, this guy sounds more passive tbh.
if we had bet larger on the turn would you still be inclined to barrel river?

I should have mentioned that villain hadn't donked and had check/called some pretty funky draws to this point, so I was putting him mostly on 8x, some worse pairs, and nutty hands.
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