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08-24-2019 , 02:42 AM
So how many tables you play at 100's right now? I have u at all my sessions everywhere lol
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08-24-2019 , 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by TRT Boss
Would be very curious:
1. for how many hands did you try out these things?
2. How did you measure how a certain strategy worked vs others in your sample? For example you deviate your 3h BB vs SB flatting ranges or 3b ranges from "gto" bc you found an exploit. For me it seems like one should do it for quite huge sample size in order to harvest any information about situation.
3. How do you know the problem was with the strategy and not with the implementation of strategy? For example playing too many tables with new strategy etc
Very good questions.
I have a lot to say, I will do a big post with answers and thoughs lil bit later.

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So how many tables you play at 100's right now? I have u at all my sessions everywhere lol
10
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08-27-2019 , 06:49 PM
gto is good vs regs
exploit is good vs fish

EOD
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08-29-2019 , 02:57 AM
damn,

My toughest climb up to stakes was 30s -> 60s lifetime, maybe 3 years ago.
It was absolutely 2 different worlds for me.
This year I mostly grind 30s with some short shots to 60-100-250.
And I think I'm out of the habit of these dynamics of these games.
And I again felt this difference in the level of play between 30s and 60-100s.

I am not sure that I will play a lot this month, because the regulars at a higher stakes constantly put me into a situations where I have gaps in knowledge.
And I have to exchange the grind for work in solver in separate spots.
Certainly did not expect this, but it is what it is.
People are definitely getting better at playing and the game doesn't seem easy at all.

Keep working.

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09-02-2019 , 05:39 PM
Sick, so much money in cashgames just only in Stars.

I wonder, is 500$+ Spin players have at least close EV like 25-30k/month?

#August

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09-03-2019 , 06:18 PM
Unfortunately they stopped allowing tracking of these a long time ago.

Before they did, you'd see plenty in the 20s each month, but nothing near as high as the top 10 I believe (not in EV, obv in jackpots different story). This was before $500s, which are like only 25% of the lowest buyin of the cash games above (cash has a huge population ---> much larger stakes). I think cash has a tendency to be super volatile month to month too, look at buck's/berri's hands/EV for example.

How many of these guys do you think are 10 tabling?
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09-04-2019 , 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoRy
Unfortunately they stopped allowing tracking of these a long time ago.

Before they did, you'd see plenty in the 20s each month, but nothing near as high as the top 10 I believe (not in EV, obv in jackpots different story). This was before $500s, which are like only 25% of the lowest buyin of the cash games above (cash has a huge population ---> much larger stakes). I think cash has a tendency to be super volatile month to month too, look at buck's/berri's hands/EV for example.

How many of these guys do you think are 10 tabling?
king10clubs is a LEGEND of multitabling and grind ethic.

As far as I know he destroyed nl400-1000 at 16+ tables back in the days when I didn't even know the combinations in poker.
2009-2010 years...
For me he is a real professional that I want to be like.
Сan't find screenshots now, but KT grinding 250+ hours per month.
In July he played 330 hours I was told.
I feel so weak against it with my 100-150 hours a month.

I'm trying to rise up to 200 hours a month at least, but I can't.
Not know why, on honest of course I play more hands than he.
If he grind 130k hands per month, for me it is 6500 spins.
If I would raise my grind hours to 200 hours month it would be 15000 games = 300k hands.
Dreams dreams dreams.
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09-04-2019 , 08:04 PM
cool blog thing dude. would be cool to see u succeed. i like ur work ethic. good luck.
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09-05-2019 , 07:58 AM
So frustrated that PokerStars has decided not to make satellites trip to UFC 242 Dubai.
Sincerely hoped that all the same will appear as was to many events in America.
One of my goals is to visit UFC live.
I would really try hard to get this package.
As I recall, he was dropping 1 per 2000 games, I think 5-6K games I would do it.

Eh, well, I hope there will be something else.
Not in America. Too far to fly and too long to apply for a visa.



I think UFC world is almost similar with poker world in competition.
You are a champ, but time passes and new people come and give you a fight.
Each session is a fight, where you end the fight bloody.
This thought helps me with tilt that you can never get away from it and will be moments when you need to endure blows.
The game reg vs reg is always a battle microedge.
Your game against the fish is a battle with your laziness, timemanagement, goals and desires.

I always try to get motivation from different places.
And looking at the UFC fighters, their work, I understand that the path to the top is very, very difficult with many challenges along the way.
And I think many people know the phrase that it’s difficult to get to the top, but it’s even more difficult to stay there.
This is what happened to me when I played Spins 100$, played 20,000 in a month and thought that now I have achieved my goal.

But time is merciless, the game is becoming more difficult, you need more effort, more energy to get what you want.
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09-09-2019 , 02:59 AM
I don't know is it reasonable to add some WCOOP events in my schedule?
I'm pretty bad in MTT and almost never studied this game.
But I watching lobby so many Spin and Go players playing it.

Maybe I'll play 55$ and 530$ HU events.
But how positive it is to play everything else I have no idea.
And I’m actually afraid to start studying MTT in parallel with the spin and go, because all the ranges will mixed and there will be a complete mess in my head.
I’m constantly trying to come up with something that might be better than GTO.
Some kind of simplification that will not require so much resources and time to study.
Maybe then I could mix several disciplines like MTT and Spins.
But study the GTO in Spins and in MTT at the same time I think is obviously doomed to failure.
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09-16-2019 , 05:46 AM
Would you mind sharing a lifetime graph of yours?
Super interested in it.
Just leave the Computer running when you go on next vacation so he can load up graph ))

Nah man really super interested to see results, especially interested in how much behind EV you are (if possible in buyins)

Hope this is not asking to much!

Luv ya and continue the spingrind.
let them recreationals grind them mtts!
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09-17-2019 , 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Contagious
Would you mind sharing a lifetime graph of yours?
Super interested in it.
Just leave the Computer running when you go on next vacation so he can load up graph ))

Nah man really super interested to see results, especially interested in how much behind EV you are (if possible in buyins)

Hope this is not asking to much!

Luv ya and continue the spingrind.
let them recreationals grind them mtts!
Yeah, sure.
I have tournaments in my database since the end of 2017.
In total, about 150k games.
Maybe I'll post it.

But I don’t know about lifetime.
I need to make a HH request and wait, and then upload it into PT4, and then wait another time until PT4 loads.
In addition, support pokerstars is having some problems.
Many can not get HH for a very long time.
I'm waiting my hands since 21.08 and still no answer.
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09-17-2019 , 10:38 AM
4 days and I'll see what happened this month in PT4.
Mix 40$-60$-100$ games.

One of my new experiments is the rejection of chipEV stat.
I feel like a struggle is going on inside me, that I may not start playing because of a suboptimal feeling.
I immediately start to think that the winrate will be bad, the overall picture will worsen.
But if you think wisely.
Let's say in A game we play at 60$/hr, B game 40-50$, C game 30$/hr, D game 15$/hr.
If we refuse B-/C/D games, we knowingly lose money.
You need to be smarter and do not refuse it.

Indeed, there is a learning moment in this, if you always skip the B-game, you can never pull it up to a decent level.
Yes, in a non-optimal feeling the game does not bring maximum pleasure, but it can somehow brighten it up.
Music, testing new lines, forcing funny spots, e.t.c.

Nevertheless, I think that due to binding to the chipEV it can affect the overall distance.
I think many regs like to feel better than others, and this can be done through high chipEV.
And maybe people play a little so as not to lose this feeling.
Always choose A game and the optimal feeling for the game.

Therefore, I, as a seeker of the way to 200+ hours per month try to move away from stereotypes and try something new.
No winrates anymore. Only Games/Net Won/EV/Hours.
I know that I have $/hour in any condition.
Even if I'm drunk and sleepy, there is too much experience to make the game unprofitable.
I feel that if I increase the number of hours per month, it will help me to go upstairs faster.
But there are so many bad thoughts in my head that interfere, fears, doubts, I need to get rid of all this.

I also think I’ll try 1-2 months to play completely without music in full concentration.
95% of the time I play with music.
Maybe it bothers me, I never tried to play a big sample without it.

By the way, maybe this week I will move to another apartment and solve my problems with the Internet.
This means that maybe the streams will resume.
I don’t know yet in what form, but it will definitely be.
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09-18-2019 , 04:06 PM
If you really love the game and have passion for it. Why the 200hr+ month are not happening ?

Also playing 200hrs without music will be bored asf
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09-20-2019 , 01:17 PM
Another month end

Run good 100s
Run bad 40-60s

But maybe 40-60 scked coz played in daytime with regz

And obv underEV, as usual...

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09-20-2019 , 01:38 PM
3 k a month is quite good
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09-22-2019 , 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Mimicry
3 k a month is quite good
Actually +7.3k

I'm in EV deal and get my money according EV every month.
Btw I heard that most EV deals(without school/stable) cut too much EV.
They offers 75-80% of initial EV compared 100% SwongSim (no JP).

'Steel Phoenix' pays almost 95-105% EV every month just for 1 buyin work stake fee.

Everyone who plays Spins think about it.
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09-22-2019 , 02:48 AM
So like this Quake channel

Nostalgic and motivating clips.

Fatal1ty says: "Practice, practice, pratice this is the only way to be good"

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09-22-2019 , 03:44 PM
If I operated an EV-insurance, I´d so not accept you ;D
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09-22-2019 , 07:15 PM
We're still waiting for that Graph porn...
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09-22-2019 , 08:34 PM
Hi,

Can you please explain with examples how the ev deals work in those pools, I can`t quite understand it ?
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09-23-2019 , 08:29 AM
Hey,

I saw u back n $30s yesterday,surprising on a Sunday?,
How come u dont play on Party?,if your used to playing without a HUD ,u would make a lot in RB
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09-23-2019 , 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by tAkE.mE.hOmE
If I operated an EV-insurance, I´d so not accept you ;D
Noooo ;D

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We're still waiting for that Graph porn...
ETA of Lifetime graph post: end of 2019.

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Hi,

Can you please explain with examples how the ev deals work in those pools, I can`t quite understand it ?
simple example 2 players in pool, one finished month 5000$ actual 10000$ ev
second 5000$ actual 2500$ ev.
Sum of actual 10000$, sum of EV 12500$.
Coefficient 10000/12500 = 0.8
EV Coeff = 1:4
1 player takes 80% of sum actual, 2 players takes 20% of sum actual.
So 2 player send to 1 player 3000$.
And in the end
1 player 8k actual 10k ev
2 player 2k actual 2.5k ev

Obv real formula is more complex to more fairness split.
You can google 'steel phoenix deal' and read about it.
But the latest results show that everyone gets almost 100% of EV.
So you don't care about actual $$$ deviations.

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I saw u back n $30s yesterday,surprising on a Sunday?,
How come u dont play on Party?,if your used to playing without a HUD ,u would make a lot in RB
Yeah, I'll be grind 30$ for a while.

Party is bot infested, confirmed bot banned on Stars "dr3amka888" playing under screenname "sp0ubledy" and party don't care about it.
And this is absurd, he is first reached 200K rake on party and get 100% rakeback just for a 2 months of grind with GTO style.
Haha, cool story, especially with him background, he is don't even beat Spins 30s on Stars in past 2015-2016.
Perhaps it is beneficial to them that some bots exist to create traffic.
So I don't want to play with cheaters.
Ah and until not quite convenient software for me as mass table grinder
If they improve it and there will be an opportunity to play 12-13 tables on rakeback, I will think about it.

Last edited by FREEQONE; 09-23-2019 at 09:21 AM.
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09-23-2019 , 09:46 AM
Go back up the $40s ,if your on one table your on every table while u are playing
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09-24-2019 , 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by FREEQONE
Yeah, I'll be grind 30$ for a while.

Party is bot infested, confirmed bot banned on Stars "dr3amka888" playing under screenname "sp0ubledy" and party don't care about it.
And this is absurd, he is first reached 200K rake on party and get 100% rakeback just for a 2 months of grind with GTO style.
Haha, cool story, especially with him background, he is don't even beat Spins 30s on Stars in past 2015-2016.
Perhaps it is beneficial to them that some bots exist to create traffic.
So I don't want to play with cheaters.
Ah and until not quite convenient software for me as mass table grinder
If they improve it and there will be an opportunity to play 12-13 tables on rakeback, I will think about it.
Last time i played on party i played 150 games first day and got 0 fish, had 3-4 regs constantly the same ones and he was one of them, they have some kind of que system aswell because there was 2 regs "LoRzoD and ParkJiSung that would NEVER be in the same game....
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