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05-05-2011 , 05:00 PM
(i was wrong to write in the title, this is not a ch / raise,sorry )

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $30(BB) Replayer
Hero ($1,500)
($1,500)

Dealt to Hero A T

raises to $90, Hero calls $60

FLOP ($180) 2 A 4

Hero checks, checks

TURN ($180) 2 A 4 T

Hero bets $90, raises to $450, Hero ?

I do not have much info, are the first hand of match. ty

Last edited by ><(((*>; 05-05-2011 at 05:01 PM. Reason: error in the title
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05-05-2011 , 05:20 PM
3bet pre against an unknown?

I'm torned in this hand. Are you planning on ch/calling a cbet?

As played, I jam the turn. Don't know what he could chback the flop, and raise turn big with? Maybe 53, AA, 22, 44, some middle type pairs, 4x, 2x. I rarely expect Ax chback on the flop, but with the large raise on the turn I'm inclined to think Ax with a club or another type of drawish combo hand? Sometimes you will met a turned set or stronger though.
I think some players like to raise a donkturnlead after a missed cbet because they believe that they got alot of foldEQ.

Do you have any Sharhscope stats? Generel ability at the 30$?

But I'm very confused in this hand, so take it for what it is worth.
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05-05-2011 , 05:40 PM
confused by the size of the raise! why raise so big as a bluff? sharkscope stats?
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05-05-2011 , 05:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dane190
3bet pre against an unknown?
i agree. this imo!
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05-05-2011 , 05:59 PM
334 -$1 $2 -26% -$188 oppo by sharkscope ^^
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05-05-2011 , 06:51 PM
3betting pre is really marginal w/AT imo, so flatting is fine. Bet bigger @ turn. Now jam imo.
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05-06-2011 , 09:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nederlander
3betting pre is really marginal w/AT imo, so flatting is fine. Bet bigger @ turn. Now jam imo.
this
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05-06-2011 , 10:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by reivas
confused by the size of the raise! why raise so big as a bluff? sharkscope stats?
HAHAHAHAH
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05-06-2011 , 10:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nederlander
3betting pre is really marginal w/AT imo, so flatting is fine. Bet bigger @ turn. Now jam imo.
what soccer fish said.
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05-06-2011 , 10:30 AM
Calling football soccer is soooo fishy
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05-06-2011 , 11:08 AM
+1
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05-06-2011 , 01:08 PM
Ty all 4 the reply's!

P.s. plz don't spam/flame in my post ty
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05-06-2011 , 05:10 PM
I flat pre, bet turn 120, and jam over his raise.
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05-07-2011 , 06:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nicecatch08
HAHAHAHAH
i'm sorry mr. Phil ivey that i'm honest ant not as good as you!
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05-07-2011 , 08:06 AM
why not donkbet the flop?? AT and an ace on a drawy board should make you donkbet on the flop both for value and for defend against any draws he may have. unless you planned for a check-raise which imo is a bad play on such a drawy board because if your opp is on draw he could happily take a free card
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05-07-2011 , 09:18 PM
Turn bet should be 120...Jam over his raise.
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05-07-2011 , 09:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by reivas
i'm sorry mr. Phil ivey that i'm honest ant not as good as you!
Lol
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