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02-23-2011 , 09:27 AM
we had a few hands before where he would call flop and then lead the turn.

we got to showdown and he had an underpair to the board.

also did a lot of donkbetting, overbetting on paired flops and stuff like that.


Im not sure about my whole line here.

turn i thought about jam it right there but his bet was so small that i went for the call. I got a lot of heart for the game so really want to bluff that river.

thought what i can represent here but then on the other side he didnt seem to be a guy who cares/thinks at all.


Full Tilt Poker $20 + $0.45 Heads Up No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 2 players

BB: t460 15.33 BBs
Hero (BTN/SB): t540 18 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BTN/SB with 7 J
Hero raises to t60, BB calls t30

Flop: (t120) Q T K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t60, BB calls t60

Turn: (t240) 5 (2 players)
BB bets t90, Hero calls t90

River: (t420) 2 (2 players)
BB checks

Last edited by JohnnyDrama030; 02-23-2011 at 09:35 AM.
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02-23-2011 , 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyDrama030
I got a lot of heart for the game so really want to bluff that river.


i think shoving turn is better than shoving river. you aren't dead on the turn and your line looks really strong, on the river however, you cannot really rep a strong hand anymore.
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02-23-2011 , 09:47 AM
I would cbet flop bigger 100-110 to set up a nice turn shove.

And yeah, sticking it in on the turn is best imo.
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02-23-2011 , 09:47 AM
Ohly nailed it imo. I'm def shoving turn w/ your read
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02-23-2011 , 10:01 AM
so call the small turn bet and fold missed river is a bad option?

what i thought was we have 420 behind on the turn and the way he played so far i dont see him folding QJ/TJ/KJ/AT etc. do i want to put my stack in on a draw with only one more card to come? if we call and fold missed river we have 330 left at 15/30.
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02-23-2011 , 01:10 PM
Your read is that his turn donk is a weak made hand, so we have alot of FE and equity to make shoving here profitable. This same read dictates that we don't have very good implied odds when we do hit, so I'd opt to shove turn, w/ calling and chk'ing most rivers being 2nd best option
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02-23-2011 , 01:11 PM
bluffing river is always suboptimal to bluffing turn coz when you get called on turn you still have 30% equity while you have none when you get called on river and I can't imagine he's calling that much tighter on river than on turn
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