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Old 11-29-2017, 12:46 PM   #1
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20s spins hand

Hey, so I have a doubt with a difficult hand I've had vs a friend of mine.
He is a reg and he plays pretty solid, and I think I misscalculate how he would play his hand.

I've tried to paste HH properly but I cant make it work so I send a screenshot of the hand.



The problem here is that I guess he is donking all his Tx on turn so when he does not I put him on the site of hands like J9o J8o or Qx worst than mine.
I limp de button to leave the fish on SB inside the hand but it doesnt work this time.

My call in the river is at 0%. But as a tilted monkey I pay and loose the x6.
I've set the hand on PIO and I should be cheking the river. And if I bet the river fold to the shove.. Not calling at 0%.

How would you have played the hand? From my perspective and my friends.
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Old 12-04-2017, 09:20 AM   #2
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Re: 20s spins hand

I dont cbet here, if sometimes i do i bet around 1/4 pot, its the same ill make with my tx, then i will play xcall turn and 50% xcall or xfold river , river its bad completes many hands and people doesnt bluff than often in paired flop, so i think its better x fold river.
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Old 12-05-2017, 10:16 PM   #3
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Re: 20s spins hand

i dont think you want to limp trap against two oponents AQo 20+bb deep definitely a minraise. You might want to check back flops like these, because there is too much fold equity and you want oponent to get some equity to call but a bet is good too 1.75bb is too big here. only realy bad turn is a K. Why would Tx donk turn? Every dead hand folds when you can get value if they catch something or decide to bluff and a lot of hands on a draw and Qx continue to barel here. I dont think there are a lot of check raise bluffs hereand also a hand like 98, K9 got there on the river, 98 K9 with a heart or backdoor spades could easily x/c x/c here. so minraise pre, check or bet flop, bet turn, bet fold river.
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Old 12-05-2017, 11:39 PM   #4
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Re: 20s spins hand

I did not minraise to leave the fish on SB inside the hand. On the other side Pio is donking every Tx on turn beside the T5 which it mixes it 50% check/ 50% bet. Donking turn with the Tx has a bit more chipev.

I agree with both of you on betting smaller the flop or cheking, although I prefer betting cause people doesn't play properly paired boards.
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Old 12-06-2017, 01:54 AM   #5
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Re: 20s spins hand

I think I can be betting this hand on the flop to have some value of worst Qx, draws, etc, and I can check the worst Qx on my range.
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Old 12-07-2017, 07:46 PM   #6
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Re: 20s spins hand

But if you limp AT+ kind of hands you dont have so much equity in a threeway, maybe 40% before the flop and basicly every flop that doesnt contain a pair for you is a bad flop and you will have a hard time playin limped pots with low card flops against two oponents you will have to throw away your hands too often and even when you flop A you will run into two pairs and **** sometimes. You want to isolate 1 oponent and play against him so you have a better chance its just more profitable and less variance. Well if you have reads on your oponent that he would donk his Tx often then its fine as played but it is still a bet/fold on the river.
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Old 12-08-2017, 09:16 AM   #7
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Re: 20s spins hand

I miss read the hand, i tought you was sb, i never limp aq in bu, i think its a big error, doesnt flop good.
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Old 12-11-2017, 11:23 PM   #8
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Re: 20s spins hand

Does everyone have GTO solvers now?

Bet/fold river, he has close to 0 xj bluff combo's unless he turns pairs into bluffs.
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Old 12-12-2017, 12:11 AM   #9
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Re: 20s spins hand

Quote:
Originally Posted by seyroku View Post
I did not minraise to leave the fish on SB inside the hand.
but fish already vpip like 40%+ sb vs btn mr
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Old 12-20-2017, 10:28 AM   #10
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Re: 20s spins hand

raise pre fold riv
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