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09-20-2010 , 02:50 PM
Villain is a solid tag / winner.

turn bet/call, river b/f against stubborn pairs, two pairs etc?

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $30(BB) Replayer
($1,200)
Hero ($1,800)

Dealt to Hero 6 5

Hero raises to $60, calls $30

FLOP ($120) 4 9 7

checks, Hero bets $60, calls $60

TURN ($240) 4 9 7 8

checks, Hero bets $200, calls $200

RIVER ($640) 4 9 7 8 J

checks, Hero bets $210, calls $210
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09-20-2010 , 02:56 PM
Depends on villain and your image imo, but I don't like your sizing, needs to be ~300-350.
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09-20-2010 , 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Regret$
Depends on villain and your image imo, but I don't like your sizing, needs to be ~300-350.
+1 also bet more on flop, it's really wet.
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09-21-2010 , 12:55 AM
I'm checking back river. Betting is also fine, but I'd make a bit less though imo.
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09-21-2010 , 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by manefon
I'm checking back river. Betting is also fine, but I'd make a bit less though imo.
Betting less than 210 when the pot is 640? Why would you do that?
I agree with the 2 other posters and make it about half the pot on that river.
My flop Cbet would be a little bigger as well I guess.
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09-21-2010 , 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Polycarpus
Betting less than 210 when the pot is 640? Why would you do that?
Because to a larger bet he's likely to fold hands we beat. That's the reason why I would bet big as a bluff.
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09-21-2010 , 10:26 AM
meh.. villain shouldn't ever have 2 pair here. like the only 2 pair that makes sense is Jc9x. I really can't think of a range where we have 50% equity vs a range that calls to make betting here +EV.

And I love thin values . But guy would have to be making some spewy call downs to make this right. Villain can have Tx here easily (T9/T8/T7).
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09-21-2010 , 10:27 AM
tbh I think scared 2pair is most of his range aside from various 9x/8x/draws. Obv the 3 clubs suck but I think there is still value in betting 200-280
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