Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $20(BB) Replayer
Hero ($1,510)
($1,490)

Dealt to Hero J J

raises to $60, Hero raises to $180, raises to $540, Hero calls $360

FLOP ($1,080) 6 T 4

[color=red]Hero bets $970 (AI),

Not sure if this is played correctly. Villain opens about 50+% of his btns, this is his first 4bet. Is this a preflop decision? Should I be folding? His range is smth like AJ-AK 99-AA to which im 55-45 but this isnt a 3bet pot so his range might even be tighter than that.

Sucks, but get it in. He could have AJs-AK, 77+ and spazzes since he "knows he opens wide, so he knows you might 3bet light".

Sorry you ran into a monster

So you choose to call preflop because u arent sure if his 4bet range is wide enough for a ship to be +ev, and now otf u give hem the chance to fold the hands u have beat?

Just needed to know I dont care alot abt results just looked kinda of like im go n going into his 4bet range so wasnt sure if it was some kind of discipline fold, thanks for the help coffee.

Oh hey you read the hh, congratulations! You missed out some other stuff though.

You have JJ, go all in

Its called stop nd go btw and its doesnt make sense at all to do it with jj.

Just get it in preflop and don't be result oriented, people can do this with AJs+, 77+ type of hands more often than you would think. And I agree with icoon that preflop shove is better than stop-and-go (or go-and-go, w/e) w/ this hand.

this

agree w mela =D

Ship JJ pre or go back to FR.

On a non-douchey note, you have no choice. Calling is super lame since 57% of the time the flop will have an overcard.

Ship pre

GII SC

fistpump shove

easy allin push with JJ but i´ve we hold 99 here? easy push too?

yes, if we are 3 betting here, then folding isnt much of an option

I like the three bet to see where we are in the hand but at this point I think we need to fold. if you shove he can't really call you with worse and it just seems like hes not bluffing enough here to make it a +ev shove

lvl?

has to be. haha, and a pretty good one

Imp retty sure this guy is for real
OT: shove ainec
edit: shove pre*

shove pre because you dont want villian to wiff flop and fold, or hit flop and call, we would rather get it in where we are 55% to win,( vs overs), and we want to get it in with 18.5% equity and see all 5 cards ( vs over pair) and we dont want to the flop to scare away hands we have 78.5% equity vs ( underpairs).

Since it is his first 4b( and this is what cutcha is referring to) he is unlikely to fold, and will usually have QQ/KK/AKs here ( given sizing/reads), but as a rule, I dont fold large pocket pairs pre, especially after we 3b. So just shove and be happy.

Think of it this way; if you have TT-AA, AKo/AKs, and you got it AIPF, then you played the hand correctly.

shove preflop