Quote:
Originally Posted by rollinas
raise/fold flop
Quote:
Originally Posted by rollinas
ur basically never ahead if he shoves over your chk/raise thats the problem,
then raise/folding the flop is bad because you're turning your hand into 43o when you c/r fold here.
T9o vs every single flush draw that has either: 1 over, 2 overs, pair, gutshot, or a OESD to go with it:
Board: 9h 8s 2h
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 53.472% 52.99% 00.48% 32001 290.50 { Ts9d }
Hand 1: 46.528% 46.05% 00.48% 27808 290.50 { AhKh, AhQh, AhJh, AhTh, Ah8h, Ah7h, Ah6h, Ah5h, Ah4h, Ah3h, KhQh, KhJh, KhTh, Kh8h, Kh7h, Kh6h, Kh5h, Kh4h, Kh3h, QhJh, QhTh, Qh8h, Qh7h, Qh6h, Qh5h, Qh4h, Qh3h, JTs, Jh8h, Jh7h, Jh6h, Jh5h, Jh4h, Jh3h, Th8h, T7s, Th6h, Th5h, Th4h, Th3h, 8h7h, 8h6h, 8h5h, 8h4h, 8s4s, 8h3h, 7h6h, 7h5h, 6h5h, JTo }
T9o vs the above and every single 9x.
Board: 9h 8s 2h
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 50.884% 46.68% 04.21% 69779 6287.50 { Ts9d }
Hand 1: 49.116% 44.91% 04.21% 67136 6287.50 { AhKh, AhQh, AhJh, AhTh, A9s, Ah8h, Ah7h, Ah6h, Ah5h, Ah4h, Ah3h, KhQh, KhJh, KhTh, K9s, Kh8h, Kh7h, Kh6h, Kh5h, Kh4h, Kh3h, QhJh, QhTh, Q9s, Qh8h, Qh7h, Qh6h, Qh5h, Qh4h, Qh3h, J9s+, Jh8h, Jh7h, Jh6h, Jh5h, Jh4h, Jh3h, T9s, Th8h, T7s, Th6h, Th5h, Th4h, Th3h, 92s+, 8h7h, 8h6h, 8h5h, 8h4h, 8s4s, 8h3h, 7h6h, 7h5h, 6h5h, A9o, K9o, Q9o, J9o+, T9o, 92o+ }
T9o vs the above + sets and overpairs:
Board: 9h 8s 2h
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 44.704% 41.23% 03.47% 75518 6356.50 { Ts9d }
Hand 1: 55.296% 51.83% 03.47% 94919 6356.50 { 88+, 22, AhKh, AhQh, AhJh, AhTh, A9s, Ah8h, Ah7h, Ah6h, Ah5h, Ah4h, Ah3h, KhQh, KhJh, KhTh, K9s, Kh8h, Kh7h, Kh6h, Kh5h, Kh4h, Kh3h, QhJh, QhTh, Q9s, Qh8h, Qh7h, Qh6h, Qh5h, Qh4h, Qh3h, J9s+, Jh8h, Jh7h, Jh6h, Jh5h, Jh4h, Jh3h, T9s, Th8h, T7s, Th6h, Th5h, Th4h, Th3h, 92s+, 8h7h, 8h6h, 8h5h, 8h4h, 8s4s, 8h3h, 7h6h, 7h5h, 6h5h, A9o, K9o, Q9o, J9o+, T9o, 92o+ }
T9o vs the above + strong 8s (Q8o+/Q8s+)
Board: 9h 8s 2h
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.767% 46.82% 02.95% 101050 6356.50 { Ts9d }
Hand 1: 50.233% 47.29% 02.95% 102057 6356.50 { 88+, 22, AhKh, AhQh, AhJh, AhTh, A9s-A8s, Ah7h, Ah6h, Ah5h, Ah4h, Ah3h, KhQh, KhJh, KhTh, K9s-K8s, Kh7h, Kh6h, Kh5h, Kh4h, Kh3h, QhJh, QhTh, Q9s-Q8s, Qh7h, Qh6h, Qh5h, Qh4h, Qh3h, J9s+, Jh8h, Jh7h, Jh6h, Jh5h, Jh4h, Jh3h, T9s, Th8h, T7s, Th6h, Th5h, Th4h, Th3h, 92s+, 8h7h, 8h6h, 8h5h, 8h4h, 8s4s, 8h3h, 7h6h, 7h5h, 6h5h, A9o-A8o, K9o-K8o, Q9o-Q8o, J9o+, T9o, 92o+ }
T9 vs the above and T7o/76o and T7s and 76s.
Board: 9h 8s 2h
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 51.675% 48.95% 02.73% 117272 6531.00 { Ts9d }
Hand 1: 48.325% 45.60% 02.73% 109246 6531.00 { 88+, 22, AhKh, AhQh, AhJh, AhTh, A9s-A8s, Ah7h, Ah6h, Ah5h, Ah4h, Ah3h, KhQh, KhJh, KhTh, K9s-K8s, Kh7h, Kh6h, Kh5h, Kh4h, Kh3h, QhJh, QhTh, Q9s-Q8s, Qh7h, Qh6h, Qh5h, Qh4h, Qh3h, J9s+, Jh8h, Jh7h, Jh6h, Jh5h, Jh4h, Jh3h, T9s, Th8h, T7s, Th6h, Th5h, Th4h, Th3h, 92s+, 8h7h, 8h6h, 8h5h, 8h4h, 8s4s, 8h3h, 76s, 7h5h, 6h5h, A9o-A8o, K9o-K8o, Q9o-Q8o, J9o+, T9o, T7o, 92o+, 76o }
So we're fine with getting it in, imo, if he 3bet shoves over our c/r. Also, OP says that villain cbets like 100% of the time. Even with all the combos I added, that's only 28.5% of his range, so villain is going to bet/fold roughly 70% of the time, which means our initial c/r earns us.. 400ish chips.
And even versus his strongest shove range (which we have 44.7% equity against), it's only -ev by like.. 36 chips (if i'm doing calculations correctly).
Last edited by borderline; 09-21-2010 at 10:15 AM.