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Old 01-26-2018, 11:28 PM   #1
Elbow Jobertski
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$2 WPN spins: The small blind can go f*** itself

I'm trying to figure out spins because apparently PLO didn't have enough variance for me. My main problem right now is that in the small blind three handed I'm lost for some reason. Probably because in soft PLO games you can fold every remotely marginal sb so life is easier. If it folds or limps to me early in a spin I kinda want to forget the whole thing and go back to chess.

I'm not getting crushed or anything through a few hundred games. I win every flip and suck out with alarming regularity, so maybe I should just never fold and hope I'm the guy that runs hot forever.

Some basic, probably standard boring hands I flagged for some reason that made sense at the time:
(reads are rando players playing the smallest spins available on the network)

#1, wherein hero just doesn't bother

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - 10.00/20.00 NL (3 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 352
Hero (SB): 580
BB: 568

Hero posts SB 10, BB posts BB 20

Pre Flop: (pot: 30) Hero has 7 J

BTN calls 20, fold, BB checks

Flop: (50, 2 players) 8 T 6
BB checks, BTN checks

Turn: (50, 2 players) A
BB checks, BTN checks

River: (50, 2 players) K
BB checks, BTN bets 50, fold,

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#2, wherein hero wishes he didn't bother:


Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - 10.00/20.00 NL (3 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 530
Hero (SB): 500
BB: 470

Hero posts SB 10, BB posts BB 20

Pre Flop: (pot: 30) Hero has 3 3

fold, Hero raises to 40, BB calls 20

Flop: (80, 2 players) 2 8 K
Hero bets 40, BB calls 40

Turn: (160, 2 players) 6
Hero checks, BB bets 80, fold,

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# 3, wherein hero tries limping because it is easier than crying:

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - 10.00/20.00 NL (3 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 500
BB: 500
BTN: 500

Hero posts SB 10, BB posts BB 20

Pre Flop: (pot: 30) Hero has 7 6

fold, Hero calls 10, BB checks

Flop: (40, 2 players) 9 7 5
Hero bets 20, BB calls 20

Turn: (80, 2 players) A
Hero bets 40, fold,

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#4, wherein hero starts to realize that cbet/check fold/check fold might be an exploitable line if he uses it every hand but why not:

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - 10.00/20.00 NL (3 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 480
BB: 500
BTN: 520

Hero posts SB 10, BB posts BB 20

Pre Flop: (pot: 30) Hero has A 2

fold, Hero raises to 40, BB calls 20

Flop: (80, 2 players) J 8 3
Hero bets 40, BB calls 40

Turn: (160, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, BB checks

River: (160, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, BB checks,
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Old 01-31-2018, 06:54 PM   #2
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Re: $2 WPN spins: The small blind can go f*** itself

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#2, wherein hero wishes he didn't bother:


Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - 10.00/20.00 NL (3 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 530
Hero (SB): 500
BB: 470

Hero posts SB 10, BB posts BB 20

Pre Flop: (pot: 30) Hero has 3 3

fold, Hero raises to 40, BB calls 20

Flop: (80, 2 players) 2 8 K
Hero bets 40, BB calls 40

Turn: (160, 2 players) 6
Hero checks, BB bets 80, fold,

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Why are you minraising preflop from the SB?? This makes no sense to me. The BB is getting 3:1 on a call and has position. I would either flat preflop or raise 4x from the SB and lead the flop for $100.

You win the BB some of the time preflop with a raise, and some of the time post flop. Of course if they call the flop, we are check/folding the turn, but most of the time it wont get to that point.
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Old 02-01-2018, 01:59 PM   #3
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Re: $2 WPN spins: The small blind can go f*** itself

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Why are you minraising preflop from the SB?? This makes no sense to me. The BB is getting 3:1 on a call and has position. I would either flat preflop or raise 4x from the SB and lead the flop for $100.

You win the BB some of the time preflop with a raise, and some of the time post flop. Of course if they call the flop, we are check/folding the turn, but most of the time it wont get to that point.
I totally agree with this post. You are giving the button good odds with marginal hands to call and see a flop. Also, some of the hands you are playing out of the small blind can be folded pre to save some money. What happens when you min raise and get re-raised by BB with J7? You have to these hands pre. Other than that with your hands like 33. I think you should raise bigger and see how the flop comes. Or, you can also elect to other options like raise pre. Jam flop given that the board is something weird. Aggression is key.
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Old 02-01-2018, 08:27 PM   #4
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Re: $2 WPN spins: The small blind can go f*** itself

have a shoving range for starters. The 33 would be a good start, it's hard to beat shoving unless you've got reads on BB
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Old 02-03-2018, 09:23 PM   #5
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have a shoving range for starters. The 33 would be a good start, it's hard to beat shoving unless you've got reads on BB
Shoving with 25BB to win 20 is a little too aggressive IMO. If Button called or raised preflop, then shoving with 33 is the correct play.
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