I received two staking proposals.
1 stone 2,5k ev ---> 55%
2 stone 5k (7,5k) ---> 60%
3 stone 12,5k(20k) ---> 65%
4 stone 20k(40k) ---> 70%
5 stone 40k(80k) ---> 75% only ev
6 stone 45k(125k)---> 80% only ev

2nd offer:


You will start at 10`s on PokerStars with 500 games warm-up at 5s and have the possibility to advance in stakes to 25`s if you win 175 EV BI with minimum 4% EV ROI.

We offer you 20K games contract with 54% / 46% on your favour profit and rakeback split starting at 10's.

With every promotion to higher stakes your base deal will increase if you will complete maintaining requirements at new stakes, which is 5k gameswith 1,92% EV+RB ROI :
- at 25s -> 58%
- at 50s -> 62%
- at 100s -> 66%.

We also offer volume deal boost each 5K games
- at 5s it is 0,25% for every 5k games,
- at 10s it is 0,5%,
- at 25s it is 0,75%
- at 50s it is 1%
- at 100s it is 1,25%

There is also VIP Program - +1% for 10k$+RB. Deal CAP is 75%.

What is more during first 5K games TOP1 jackpot is free - if you will hit the biggest multiplier during first 5k games, all the money is yours.




Which one do you think is better?

The only way I can see getting staked at $10 games making sense is if you will get coaching along with the backing deal.

yeah, there is coaching associated.

Without knowing your results my first impression is they both (in case it isn't the same entity) hate financial risk while love sharing profits so first I'd be making sure all the resources offered are really top-top before comitting anything and letting them freerolling big time.

Second deal is especially sketchy given it requires integrity on the stakers end, the 500 games trial in itself is already can be interpreted as a joke tbh

They are two different entities. One is an international company, the second a stacking team from my country.
What do you think would be a fair deal? ( 60-40 or more for me?)
Honestly I don't think I will sign for anything less than 65-35 for me.

Not knowing the details I can't tell you anything besides your cut doesn't really matter if you're buried in makeup, banned from sites, being coached for a losing/breakeven game and so forth... I'd think along the lines of the deals prospects and partners integrity

Impossible to say what's best without knowing your recent results.

Yeah, I forgot to put my graph:

https://ibb.co/GpyWjrJ

(my last 1600 spins)

Looks good. 65/35 seems reasonable to me, but idk much about staking in spins.

nice

10k hands in 1588 games? At bottom right on the screen, don't add up to me.

Anyway it's clear in both cases they wish to invest the minimum amount of money expecting you to profit and stake you from your own profit. You can do that on your own without giving % to anyone...

So again I'd begin with asking do these teams really the best, do they have the best software, materials, coaches, managers etc to work with?
What guarantees they provide they really do have that?
Will they compensate in any way should you be unsatisfied with them (or you just free to leave when in profits)?
Whats the amount they promise investing in your game before letting you go if things not going their way?
How much freedom do you get? For example volume wise etc, but also if they're even want to outline what you eat for dinner and when you go to sleep (which is a massive joke in itself but there's clowns like that out there...)
Will you be just demanded to mindlessly follow a strategy or you'll have a coach at your disposal who works on your game while you're at the tables (as it should be)?

For me a big red flag is that when they're pushing anything else but providing you the best strategies, software etc they have. Some stakers I'd even require to put money down at an escrow (like 5k euros) which they'll forfeit when begining to act up - basically being suspected not matching quality standards.

As you can see it isn't that simple so the deals can be evaluate on a case-by-case basis. You are being close to a 0 risk investment so what would you actually benefit from these deals or are they willing to start you out like 2-3 limits above?

Hope I could help you, good luck

10k hands is the number of hands played in the last session I guess.
I think they are good teams in terms of coaching, software etc. The fact is that, having already been in a stable I know that it becomes almost a job and you lose that freedom that is the best thing about poker. Btw I think I need it in order to uplevel, but I definetely want a better deal