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12-02-2011 , 10:23 AM

PlzDon'tCall

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First hand, absolutly readless. Standard fold?

Poker Stars, $3.32 Buy-in (10/20 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11198872

Hero (SB): 1,500 (75 bb)
BB: 1,500 (75 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6

Hero raises to 50, BB calls 30

Flop: (100) J

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 65, BB calls 65

Turn: (230) 8

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 165, BB calls 165

River: (560) 5

(2 players)
BB bets 280

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12-02-2011 , 10:24 AM

HoyaSaxa123

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nh, might bet a bit larger on the turn since he's rarely folding

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12-02-2011 , 01:44 PM

crazyriver

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Really std fold? Interested in decent reaaonings.

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12-02-2011 , 01:52 PM

Siriusz

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Originally Posted by crazyriver

Really std fold? Interested in decent reaaonings.

Lolevel.

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12-02-2011 , 02:01 PM

stone75

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Originally Posted by crazyriver

Really std fold? Interested in decent reaaonings.

every single draw got there on turn and River. That's enough reason for me to fold here

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12-02-2011 , 02:17 PM

Dalglish

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+1 to folding. fold pre / check back flop / bet turn bigger imo.

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12-02-2011 , 02:17 PM

crazyriver

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Nvm =D
Yea, fold looks fine.

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12-02-2011 , 02:25 PM

Siriusz

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Originally Posted by Dalglish

+1 to folding. fold pre / check back flop / bet turn bigger imo.

Folding pre readless w that hand seems very bad spec at those stakes. Dont hate a x back on flop but again betting is probably better readless. Only thing i think i agree is betting bigger on the turn.

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12-02-2011 , 02:36 PM

Dalglish

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Originally Posted by Siriusz

Folding pre readless w that hand seems very bad spec at those stakes.

Why? 75bb deep, don't know anything about villain, i see no reason to raise 68o. Don't mind limping, we get more info on villain that way.

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12-02-2011 , 03:02 PM

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Siriusz

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Originally Posted by Dalglish

Why? 75bb deep, don't know anything about villain, i see no reason to raise 68o. Don't mind limping, we get more info on villain that way.

Cool, i said folding is bad, we dont need to raise or fold as u figured out though

Although if i had only to decide between raise or fold id raise every time

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12-02-2011 , 06:42 PM

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PlzDon'tCall

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Originally Posted by Dalglish

Why? 75bb deep, don't know anything about villain, i see no reason to raise 68o. Don't mind limping, we get more info on villain that way.

I open 100% of my button on the first hand. Its really any two cards in that situation I think. Esp. that at the lower stakes ppl adjust poorly to button opens.

I disagree w/ checking back the flop since you know nothing about his defend range, were taking it down a ton there. Also, there are so many draws that are flatting (that we don't want to give a free card), and we can barrel a lot of turns.

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12-03-2011 , 12:05 PM

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Dalglish

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i guess i just like to know more about my opponent before i barrel flop and turn with bottom pair

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12-03-2011 , 12:31 PM

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jacopastorius

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I think pf is ok, even if I tend to limp a lot, especially in the first hands where I have to know something about my opponent. Betting flop is standard, but I feel to suggest to not 2barrel turn without reads, as Dalglish said and also because most of the times we get called with that turn, building a big pot and too river cards hurts us

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