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03-06-2011 , 04:43 PM

Steve Kutcher

newbie

Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 30

hi,
I'm husng beginner and i've got some questions.

1) villain is fish, my flop minbet is missclick.It should be 105 bet or something.

Poker Stars, $2 Buy-in (25/50 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8105632

BB: 1,520 (30.4 bb)
Hero (SB): 1,480 (29.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6

Hero raises to 105, BB calls 55

Flop: (210) 4

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 50, BB raises to 200

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2) villain is fish, are they doin' it with only top ranges? It was 2nd hand of HU

Poker Stars, $2 Buy-in (10/20 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
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Hero (BB): 1,480 (74 bb)
SB: 1,520 (76 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J

SB completes, Hero raises to 60, SB raises to 1,520 and is all-in

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03-06-2011 , 04:48 PM

JSpazz

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Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 6,694

snap get it in in both hands

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03-06-2011 , 05:15 PM

RoyaltyFree

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 294

Get them in.

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03-06-2011 , 05:57 PM

dandy warhol

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03-06-2011 , 11:45 PM

Jakester1288

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,394

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Originally Posted by JSpazz

snap get it in in both hands

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Originally Posted by RoyaltyFree

Get them in.

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Originally Posted by dandy warhol

+1!

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03-07-2011 , 12:41 AM

hungryguy

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 625

well , if you shove in hand one hw might fold , reraise to t450 (another 250 chips) and bet big turn and river. I wonder how much would the more experienced players raise in hand one ?

hand 2 is instant call , you are most likely (99% of times) way ahead , as no fish would shove with QQ KK AA to your bet of t60 chips. He most likely has a weak pocket pair or Ax.

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03-07-2011 , 09:19 AM

MechanicalBoy

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Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 415

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Originally Posted by hungryguy

well , if you shove in hand one hw might fold , reraise to t450 (another 250 chips) and bet big turn and river.

shove looks weaker than 3bet

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03-07-2011 , 10:06 AM

Punch Dancer

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 4,694

cbet alot bigger in first hand. Your hand is vulnerable and there is a ton of hands to get value from. As played shove for the same reasons.

Hand 2 is a SNAP call. you have the nuts

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03-07-2011 , 10:31 AM

kruszczyk

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Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 98

How about we modify the hand1:
hero cbets t115 and villain just calls.
The turn is a club and we do not make Straigh Flush. Is it a b/f, b/shove or c/r?

Last edited by kruszczyk; 03-07-2011 at 10:31 AM. Reason: stupid grammar mistake

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03-07-2011 , 10:37 AM

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Punch Dancer

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Originally Posted by kruszczyk

How about we modify the hand1:
hero cbets t115 and villain just calls.
The turn is a club and we do not make Straigh Flush. Is it a b/f, b/shove or c/r?

fold or check. call if he bets really small and you think you can draw to your Str8 flush profitably

(we can't c/r IP, b/f gets value from almost nothing we beat and b/shove is a spewy bluff since ppl don't often bluff raise 4 flush boards after calling a cbet ime)

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03-07-2011 , 10:42 AM

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kruszczyk

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Originally Posted by Punch Dancer

Sorry, I thought we were in position. I was also leaning to c/f because ppl don't bluff turns that often.

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03-07-2011 , 10:49 AM

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Punch Dancer

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Originally Posted by kruszczyk

Sorry, I thought we were in position. I was also leaning to c/f because ppl don't bluff turns that often.

It's not so much that ppl don't bluff turns. But on this board, they don't call this flop very much and then have a need to bluff a club turn. Either they have a pair or they have a club draw almost always, so they don't really have a bluffing range aside from pairs turned into bluffs (rare at 2$) and huge random spazz(small %)

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03-07-2011 , 11:30 AM

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kruszczyk

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Originally Posted by Punch Dancer

like the reasoning and explanation here. Thanks.

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03-08-2011 , 09:55 AM

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katakrak

stranger

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 9

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Originally Posted by Steve Kutcher

hi,
I'm husng beginner and i've got some questions.

1) villain is fish, my flop minbet is missclick.It should be 105 bet or something.

2) villain is fish, are they doin' it with only top ranges? It was 2nd hand of HU

I would put all the money in in both hands. But I have a question: what is exactly a fish ?

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03-08-2011 , 10:43 AM

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Steve Kutcher

newbie

Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 30

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Originally Posted by katakrak

I would put all the money in in both hands. But I have a question: what is exactly a fish ?

In this situation it's player, who is losing on HU and has no idea about HU game...but these guys were losing everywhere so i called them fish.

I'm not good at HU and i'm learning. My goal is now safe roll (for me is safe something about 250bi) on $6 HU turbo. I'm still mainly 45m player

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03-08-2011 , 11:23 AM

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tjobim

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 447

hahahah free cheese ftw. i jam both hands.

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