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06-21-2016 , 09:11 PM
Hero (BB): 29 BB
SB: 21 BB (VPIP: 59.77, PFR: 38.75, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 87)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K Q

SB raises to 2 BB, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (4 BB, 2 players) 9 5 7
Hero checks, SB bets 2 BB, Hero raises to 5 BB, SB calls 3 BB

Turn: (14 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero bets 22 BB and is all-in, SB 14 BB to call


Is it standart as played or do you play it differently?..what if something from 56789T (non h)comes ?
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06-22-2016 , 03:02 AM
im c/c flop as standard
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06-22-2016 , 03:11 AM
with any fd or this one?
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06-22-2016 , 03:12 AM
id c/c any fd on this flop
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06-22-2016 , 01:02 PM
thanks, what kind of board would you ch/r on with this hand having fd?
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06-23-2016 , 04:35 AM
idk, I think its better to c/c fd always, atleast low ones, at least I cant see check raising being much better, mby only on boards where we have a lot of fold equity
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06-23-2016 , 05:24 AM
would c/c low fd, but we had K high fd in hand thats why i thought ch/r might be better
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06-23-2016 , 10:41 AM
Imo its best to have some flush draws in our c/r range because of balancing.

Remember some flops you dont have c/r range at all.

At this flop we definitely have c/r range. Think about hands like 97. This hand KQh can be in our c/r range imo. It is happily going all in, having good equity against any range.

I am c/calling most fd though.
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06-23-2016 , 11:03 AM
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Imo its best to have some flush draws in our c/r range because of balancing.
Not really. If you are trying to balance anything vs random you are burning money, especially at this level.
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06-23-2016 , 11:09 AM
yeah, vs randoms no need to balance,also on what flops we dont have checkraisng range?
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06-23-2016 , 11:21 AM
I think the hand has too much equity to make it a bluff. We can easily check-call this and check-call any turn card to reasonable sizings.

I'd be more inclined to raise with lower FD's, since then we get more better hands to fold.
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06-23-2016 , 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by none888
yeah, vs randoms no need to balance,also on what flops we dont have checkraisng range?
A92o or K42o for example I dont raise any hand this deep
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06-25-2016 , 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Alladin
A92o or K42o for example I dont raise any hand this deep
why?

if u expect to many folds -> great bluff raise spot
if u expect to many calls -> great value raise spot
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06-25-2016 , 03:01 AM
I would X/Call this hand and CR hand like 46s, 48s, 96s, 810s, J9s, J8s, J6s.
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07-05-2016 , 05:37 PM
If u wanna talk about balancing wouldn't KhQh be one of the best c/c flushes? checkraising folds out all the Kx we dominate, and all the Qx we dominate. A hand like Jh3h would be better since we fold out Tx that dominate us and in a CR pot, Jh3h on a J turn isnt much worse than KhQh on a K or Q turn. On the other hand, in a c/c pot KhQh on a K or Q turn is WAYYYYY better than Th3h on a T turn.
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07-08-2016 , 11:36 PM
I completely disagree with people saying don't think about balance at low levels. Even at low levels I recommend still always considering how to play a balanced range. Once you have reads it's fine to change how you play but I always would start from a place of balance.
I personally like C/C flop for many of the reasons that poison stated. As played def shove turn.
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07-09-2016 , 02:25 AM
you have reads even if you havent played villain before, its called population tendencies
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07-09-2016 , 02:38 AM
If you play balanced vs the population, instead of max exploitative, you're losing so much value
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07-09-2016 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by obbudsman
If you play balanced vs the population, instead of max exploitative, you're losing so much value
Agreed but until you have good reads you need to play based on population/GTO. I also would rather under-adjust than over-adjust and end up being the one getting exploited. If you play solid balanced poker you will still be crushing lower levels and with a skill-set that transfers to mid/high stakes.
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07-10-2016 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by pushing22
Agreed but until you have good reads you need to play based on population/GTO.
Pong, is that you?
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07-10-2016 , 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by kobmish
Pong, is that you?
I think he's skilled_sox on stars, an old school legend that played the highest stakes
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07-10-2016 , 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Poisonlolz
I think he's skilled_sox on stars, an old school legend that played the highest stakes
So he is trolling then?
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07-10-2016 , 01:41 PM
*Very old school
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07-10-2016 , 03:57 PM
Yes I am skilled_sox from back in the day. I mostly bet on sports but I still play poker on bovada, $200 HUsng and short stacking a lot of HU or short handed cash. Not trolling about anything I say though, not sure why anyone would think I am based on what I have said.

Back when I was playing 5ks I didn't really understand **** about balance. Two years ago an old poker friend got me into playing again by helping me focus a lot more on balance and for me it made a huge difference. Not saying you need to play balanced to beat low stakes but for me thinking about balance is the most important thing to improving.

I know posting good strategy isn't really popular these days on 2+2 but poker isn't my main source of income anymore and I'm just trying to give out some good strat to a place that helped me improve back in the day. Obviously feel free to disregard/disagree with anything I say but I would never come on and give out advice that I don't think is good.
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07-10-2016 , 05:07 PM
Pushing definitely isn't trolling, most of his postflop advice is good and none of it was illogical. At least he doesn't advocate minimzing your stacksize in Spins I agree with kobmish that balancing is really useless against a random tho.
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