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11-09-2015 , 03:42 PM

Pyha Karu

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Fine spots to bluff occasionally. Or way too many fldraw combos?

PokerStars - $14.39+$0.61|25/50 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 1,195 (VPIP: 71.43, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 22)
Hero (BB): 1,805

SB posts SB 25, Hero posts BB 50

Pre Flop: (pot: 75) Hero has Q

SB calls 25, Hero raises to 150, SB calls 100

Flop: (300, 2 players) 8

Hero bets 111, SB calls 111

Turn: (522, 2 players) J

Hero bets 165

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11-14-2015 , 01:20 PM

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11-14-2015 , 10:07 PM

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why would it be a good bluff spot tho? how weak is him limping range should be themain thought if considering bluffing flop/turn.Even then is he likely to fold any flush that he has probably not so id prob fire once give up if i played it this way but i prob be more inclined to c/f or delay unless some super tendency i can exploit.

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11-14-2015 , 11:13 PM

Pyha Karu

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not trying to fold a flush there but theres loads of 8x in peoples limping ranges that should fold the turn almost always.

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11-15-2015 , 03:27 AM

welsh-witch1

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probably not to that sizing tho and a small part of his continuing range is 8x without a club.

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11-16-2015 , 08:34 PM

Pyha Karu

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Originally Posted by welsh-witch1

probably not to that sizing tho and a small part of his continuing range is 8x without a club.

How is 8x a small part of continuation range here? 8 9, 8 10, J 8, Q 8, even offsuit combos are all standard hands to limpcall pre there

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11-16-2015 , 10:42 PM

Pyha Karu

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Which club hands would be good to continue on this particular flop vs a cbet as villain?

Lets say the flop would be like this, and you would be on the bb, calling a raise. Are you continuing with basically any ClubX hand on this flop? Even with 7s4c vs a cbet?

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11-18-2015 , 01:03 AM

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11-18-2015 , 03:05 AM

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I think most 8x and other strong made non-flush hands would raise OTF, and because villain limped-called pre it's somewhat less likely he has a strong club. I think it's a good bluff spot, but only in combination with a river shove.

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11-18-2015 , 03:14 AM

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Pyha Karu

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Originally Posted by obbudsman

I also thought about him not having strong club hands that much in his range. Though i do disagree with raising an 8x on the flop being the standard play. Dont see how its good since when you get it in, you are pretty much just hoping for a flip vs overcards and clubdraw.

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