Only a few hands into the match, villain is unknown but looks a little fishy. How is my line on the turn and what do we do on the river - c/f, c/c or shove???

Our turn call basically means that we've now committed to the pot if a blank hits so if you thought that you were good on the turn you can't really fold to this river anymore, and I think we are good on the turn here considering that I don't see a lot of 9x in his range, basically 9T/98/9J are the only ones, but considering that he's fishy adds couple more.

On the river we beat everything else than 9x so I'd go here for a check/call.

I'd probably go shoving on the turn here because I think our hand is too strong to be folded, without proper reads, and there isn't really many cards we want to see on the river here and only hand that is beating us here at the moment is 9x's and imo if we are willing to flat here we should definitely be willing to shove here also especially because I see it far better than flatting, not sure though so I'll be happy to hear comments about this one.

My line: Shove turn, check/call river.

Thanks for the long response.

When you say shove turn, do you mean c/shove or just open shove?? I think open shoving folds out most worse hands, but a c/shove is probably not bad.

As played, why would you c/call river and not shove. If he has a worse made hand I think we are better off shoving that c/calling because he will probably check a lot of showdown value hands behind that he would call with if we shove, especially because our line is so weird. Or do you think he has enough bluffs in his range to compensate for that?

On the turn I mean c/shove, if he bets behind like he did even though us not keeping the lead here and betting is kind of controversial to what I said here before because if we think we are ready to c/shove here we should be ready to bet/call(if he decides to bet) also.

On the river I like c/calling more because I think his range consist much more missed fd's/sd's than made hands and I don't see him calling us down without 2 pairs or better which I almost never see in his hand because of the fact that he only called us down on the flop; 2 pair/better would've definitely re-raised us on that flop and him having e.g. QJ here is highly unlikely considering there's only one Q left on the deck(=the turn almost never gave him 2p).

Long story short: c/shove on the turn(I just decided that betting here isn't better because checking gives us some info about what he's up to but don't know for sure though) and I put him on missed draws on the river more often than made hands that would call our shove.

yep i sigh and shove over turn bet.

shouldn't we be more inclined to bet turn? two pair hands/pair+draw make much more sense to me than a straight and alot of those hands will try to potcontrol.