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11-23-2011 , 11:10 AM
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    Poker Stars, $14.39 Buy-in (10/20 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
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    Hero (SB): 1,590 (79.5 bb)
    BB: 1,410 (70.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 7 T
    Hero raises to 50, BB calls 30

    Flop: (100) 3 3 9 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets 70, BB calls 70

    Turn: (240) 8 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets 160, BB calls 160

    River: (560) Q (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero??



    Start of the match. Villain has folded his first 3 BBs. I 3beted him once and he folded.

    I think pre is std since he seems to be tight. I cbet flop because i assume i have a lot of FE since he has been playin' straightforward so far (should i cbet smaller?). I barrel turn to fold out his A highs and maybe low PPs and because i pick up a lot of equity.

    Do we bluff this river (with a thin value-ish sizing?) ? Does he have enough FDs, low PPs or maybe even stubborn A highs in his range that he folds here? Does he ever fold a weak 9x?
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    11-23-2011 , 11:54 AM
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    Go big or go home. either bet big or just check
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    11-23-2011 , 11:57 AM
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    this is a meh rundown. Also I doubt villain flats worse than 98.
    I don't see a reason to bet turn unless he's floaty. yes, we have equity( 11 or so outs) but we have nearly no fe vs a straight forward made range ott.

    River I'd bet 220 and pray he doesn't station low pps and gives me the 28-29% I need to make the line profitable
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    11-23-2011 , 12:10 PM
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    If he folded small pps and Ax on the turn good luck trying to get him fold pair of nines. I wouldn't bluff here. But something like 1/4 pot bet could be ok because villains flushdraws. It seems better than decent sized bluff?
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    11-23-2011 , 12:17 PM
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Krumb Snatcha
    Go big or go home. either bet big or just check
    why would you bet big if we only want him to fold his low PPs, FDs (and maybe A highs)?? Filth made a good point that he doesnt have any weak nines in his range and he most likely wont fold any of his decent 9x hands to any bet. Forget about making it look like we are going for thin value, he most likely doesnt know how to hand read anyway, but doesnt a smaller bet accomplish the same thing??
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    11-23-2011 , 12:21 PM
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    If he folded small pps and Ax on the turn good luck trying to get him fold pair of nines. I wouldn't bluff here. But something like 1/4 pot bet could be ok because villains flushdraws. It seems better than decent sized bluff?
    I don't think he folds low pps ott, if he does we should obviously check river.
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    11-23-2011 , 12:29 PM
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    Quote:
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    I don't think he folds low pps ott, if he does we should obviously check river.
    Then your 220 sizing seems perfect
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    11-23-2011 , 01:11 PM
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by filth
    this is a meh rundown. Also I doubt villain flats worse than 98.
    I don't see a reason to bet turn unless he's floaty. yes, we have equity( 11 or so outs) but we have nearly no fe vs a straight forward made range ott.

    River I'd bet 220 and pray he doesn't station low pps and gives me the 28-29% I need to make the line profitable
    If you don't think we should bet the turn then a normal size bet should work and is better in theory than a smaller bet.

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    why would you bet big if we only want him to fold his low PPs, FDs (and maybe A highs)?? Filth made a good point that he doesnt have any weak nines in his range and he most likely wont fold any of his decent 9x hands to any bet. Forget about making it look like we are going for thin value, he most likely doesnt know how to hand read anyway, but doesnt a smaller bet accomplish the same thing??
    His range is weighted heavily towards 9x, most will exploitably fold Ax on the turn too often, and the other hands you mentioned are such a small part of his range. Not saying a smaller bet won't accomplish what you want, just a bigger bet is more likely to be better.
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