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15$ Hyper - I needed an excuse to make a break so decided to post hand 15$ Hyper - I needed an excuse to make a break so decided to post hand

11-08-2011 , 12:02 PM
1st hand

    Poker Stars, $14.69 Buy-in (10/20 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10994082

    SB: 500 (25 bb)
    Hero (BB): 500 (25 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 6 T
    SB completes, Hero checks

    Flop: (40) 4 A 5 (2 players)
    Hero bets 20, SB raises to 60, Hero calls 40

    Turn: (160) T (2 players)
    Hero checks, SB checks

    River: (160) 2 (2 players)
    Hero bets 60



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    Dont think 3betting flop is good since Ax is not is his range and he's not good enougth to realize its not in mine as well i assume, maybe im underrestimating his ability to get it in pair + fd? (which i was assuming is not a huge chunk of his range to make it worth it)

    On river, meh, dunno, i guess that card induces a lot, thats why i decided to bet little as inducing bet as well (and let him continue to bluff which is a decent chunk of his range), and i do get more value from random pairs. I kinda lose value vs other stuff and in hindsight a bet like 45/50 might be better, cause he may be flatting this bet with a 3x

    Last edited by Deepak; 11-08-2011 at 12:08 PM.
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    11-08-2011 , 12:26 PM
    i lead turn tbh...
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    11-08-2011 , 12:50 PM
    bet slightly smaller on river, not coz he might flat 3x (he wont) but coz he might fold 5x/4x. also lead turn, he wont barrell this card often w bluffs
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    11-08-2011 , 12:53 PM
    flop didnt go c/c, or lead/c, the has a lot of random junk (and total bluffs) after raising flop which he isnt calling a turn bet, but may continue to barrel with little to no equity the way action was, dont u agree?
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    11-08-2011 , 01:18 PM
    Yes, def. lead turn 60-70 IMO.
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    11-08-2011 , 01:45 PM
    i like small reraise vs std fish on flop, calling is great too, vs reg id snap shove tho

    bet turn obv

    on river i disagree on betting smaller, id actually even bet bigger because range is capped and i dont think ull get calls from pairs (unless u have the read hes super stationy then i can defend the smaller bet, readless i dont), only 3x/rivered straights will call which would call any size probs. Yes , sometimes you do a bet which is only working 10% of the times, but it doesnt matter, what else can you do.

    Last edited by emotionx; 11-08-2011 at 01:51 PM.
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    11-08-2011 , 02:18 PM
    id make it 130 on flop or just shove, pairs + fd are stacking, and even first hand i think u are underestimating how much fish limp Ax hands or pairs that in this case might have a diamond like 8d8+ or whatever, is not like is a huge part of his range but it has to be added imo cause u dont rep Ax at all in his eyes

    on turn id lead again as played he might raise again with all his range, when u just flat flop he might think u have a weak hand/fd and dont want to keep giving free cards/value betting against fd

    to me u played it too passively, so u are a nit
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    11-08-2011 , 02:29 PM
    k, ty guys
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    11-08-2011 , 07:18 PM
    i x/c flop readless tbh, as played bet turn
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    11-08-2011 , 07:35 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Freakg
    id make it 130 on flop or just shove, pairs + fd are stacking, and even first hand i think u are underestimating how much fish limp Ax hands or pairs that in this case might have a diamond like 8d8+ or whatever, is not like is a huge part of his range but it has to be added imo cause u dont rep Ax at all in his eyes

    on turn id lead again as played he might raise again with all his range, when u just flat flop he might think u have a weak hand/fd and dont want to keep giving free cards/value betting against fd

    to me u played it too passively, so u are a nit
    This x2
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    11-08-2011 , 07:47 PM
    he had Q5xx called river bet
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    11-09-2011 , 08:37 AM
    Reraise the flop AINEC tons of hands will kill your value on the turn
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    11-09-2011 , 09:00 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Deepak
    flop didnt go c/c, or lead/c, the has a lot of random junk (and total bluffs) after raising flop which he isnt calling a turn bet, but may continue to barrel with little to no equity the way action was, dont u agree?
    most of the hands he barrells are hands that call a donk anyways, he has few true bluffs in his range and he might check back 5x+FD type hands

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by emotionx
    on river i disagree on betting smaller, id actually even bet bigger because range is capped and i dont think ull get calls from pairs (unless u have the read hes super stationy then i can defend the smaller bet, readless i dont), only 3x/rivered straights will call which would call any size probs. Yes , sometimes you do a bet which is only working 10% of the times, but it doesnt matter, what else can you do.
    our range is capped too and most ppl are stations anyway. If you bet like 40 it will look like a stab and he's gonna at least call w most 5x/4x and maybe raise missed draws. if you bet pot you fold out almost his entire range, and that's after discounting stuff like 3x and slowplayed flushes that all stack off anyway
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    11-09-2011 , 11:04 AM
    err leading turn after you are b/c flop is pretty contradictory. First you call because you think he cannot call your small 3bet and his range might have some bluffs in it and afterwards on turn you lead because you think he won't bluff enough. Like what? Don't worry about naked 4x or 5x, you are not getting any value from them anyway.
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    11-09-2011 , 01:06 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by genher
    Reraise the flop AINEC tons of hands will kill your value on the turn
    I would never flat the flop raise and let turn cards kill our action
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