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 Hyper, 2nd pair facing x/r OTF  Hyper, 2nd pair facing x/r OTF

01-30-2012 , 03:07 AM
Readless situation.

Poker Stars, $14.69 Buy-in (10/20 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players

BB: 500 (25 bb)
Hero (SB): 500 (25 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J5
Hero raises to 40, BB calls 20

Flop: (80) 35Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 40, BB raises to 120, hero ?
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01-30-2012 , 03:21 AM
I wouldn't get too creative and just fold.
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01-30-2012 , 03:22 AM
Easy, snap-fold.
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01-30-2012 , 03:35 AM
yep std fold readless
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01-30-2012 , 06:44 AM
Is this really that bad of a spot to flat in? We need 25% equity to continue vs this small c/r. We have 5 immediate outs plus bdfd. I peel a lot here, but it might be a leak of mine...
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01-30-2012 , 07:46 AM
Fold Readless
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01-30-2012 , 10:42 AM
im a station, but I never fold here, shove or flat flop and gii on the turn, the board looks pretty dry, also good kicker for 5
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01-30-2012 , 09:17 PM
Ye readless it's a fold since most villians won't CR t120 light in these spots.
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01-30-2012 , 11:43 PM
I think I'd eyeroll and flat, we can discount some Qx from his range (AQ, KQ usually 3bets pre and we have a blocker for QJ) and the board is quite dry. I'm not sure if a random can c/r here with like Q8 either so that leaves us with even less Qx combo imo.
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01-31-2012 , 12:04 AM
how do you play different turns then?
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01-31-2012 , 08:48 AM
This hand is actually from a coaching video. There the instructor suggested that shove might be best. My initial reaction was to fold, so I wanted to get some more opinions.

Looking now at the hand, I think it's a pretty close decision. Although I would prefer shoving to calling as we don't want to give free cards to his airball hands. I guess the decision depends directly on how often the average villain x/raises this board as a bluff. Therefore it might even be stake dependent. My guess is that it's more favorable to jam in $30+ games.
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01-31-2012 , 01:28 PM
fold
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01-31-2012 , 04:53 PM
Shove but its close. Flatting is prob worst as most people don't have a plan on the majority of turns. J5 is around borderline and I would fold 95.
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01-31-2012 , 05:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by zorzak
how do you play different turns then?
Ouch, sorry I meant to eyeroll and shove.
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