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10-01-2012 , 10:45 AM

ragna

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V has been playing every hand so far (12), called 6 times OOP and minraised 6 times from SB. Postflop pretty passive/tight, this is his second cbet.

Poker Stars $14.69+$0.31 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players - View hand 1929131
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BTN/SB: t500 25 BBs
Hero (BB): t500 25 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with 7

BTN/SB raises to t40, Hero calls t20

Flop: (t80) Q

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t40, Hero raises to t460 all in

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10-01-2012 , 10:51 AM

Malah

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Against pair + better FD you are drawing very thin. I like a flatcall here and proceed with caution.

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10-01-2012 , 03:55 PM

ohly

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i like flatting, too, when he cbets he has a hit on this board with a very high frequency. additionally he will likely even check his weaker pair hands back, so i expect you to have very little FE combined with mediocre equity.

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10-01-2012 , 10:12 PM

callme

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You really picked the nastiest board possible to shove your hand where you most likely get the least folds. Its not even as your hand is and actual awesome draw with clean outs. As he seems to cbet quite reasonable and we are still somewhat deep calling isnt such a bad idea in this spot.

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10-02-2012 , 08:09 AM

Benjamin the Donk

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Yeah real bad imo, you've said villain is passive/tight post flop (cbet 33% over 6 hands) and then jammed over a cbet on an super wet board. Imo you are crushed 90% of the time.
I have to agree with calling, def folding to a turn barrel vs passive on turn though, even if it bricks. I'd probably even fold on a spade depending on sizing

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10-02-2012 , 08:17 AM

yay

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what about donk betting this flop

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10-02-2012 , 10:09 AM

watergun7

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What do you think you achieve here? Basically you fold out all hands you crush, and get called by hands that either flip or crush yours. So you might as well have check jammed bottom pair, A high, and the EV is only slightly better than jamming some pure bluff.

Donking and x/calling are both superior imo, depending on how he reacts to donks. Also I think donking >50 is very bad also as we want to encourage calls and not make him go into jam/fold mode, so I would probably donk halfpot.

Actually donking is best given I have just read the bolded part.

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10-02-2012 , 11:59 AM

callme

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Originally Posted by yay

what about donk betting this flop

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10-02-2012 , 12:53 PM

Orsulab3rt

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Originally Posted by yay

what about donk betting this flop

he open 6/6 and he tight passive post,looks like good spot to donk.

I think he will play fit or fold on this flop but also he connect to this flop with wide range,what our plan on turn if he flat?

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10-02-2012 , 04:39 PM

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i actually don't have much experience with donking myself, it's a fairly rare spot. but i would guess barreling would be pretty good, it's a flop where people prob raise TP almost always, and it's in general very scary so we can prob barrel him off on turns and rivers. or take our chances and check turn hoping to get a free rivers vs his weaker value. but "hoping" sounds alot worse than barreling him of likely top part of his range.

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