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09-24-2010 , 03:46 AM
This was like 8th hand or something
-only hand ive seen was he 2x A6o cbet A97r cbet 60 into 80, ch back Jx turn after i flat flop, then flat my river lead of 80 into 200 (i had 86o).
-he also hasnt folded a btn yet
-he did call 3x and fold to a cbet on KJXr flop the hand b4 so he isnt fighting for every pot
-he was a break even guy @ av $7 with like 1k games who had recently won a tourney or something for a few k

Poker Stars $110+$5 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): t1380 69 BBs
BTN/SB: t1620 81 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with J 9
BTN/SB calls t10, Hero checks

Flop: (t40) 2 4 9 (2 players)
Hero bets t30, BTN/SB raises to t100, Hero calls t70

Turn: (t240) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t180, Hero calls t180

River: (t600) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t500


thoughts?
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09-24-2010 , 03:59 AM
I think I'd call, I'm a station. But folding cant be wrong imo.
You are repping a weak nine or a draw, but he's probably a donk so it doesnt matter that much.
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09-24-2010 , 04:09 AM
id call. villians not representing much. i think youll see air or a missed gutshot here or something. if villian did hit a 6 on the turn he likely would have checked. on occassion you might see an overpair but definately more air in range.
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09-24-2010 , 04:25 AM
The only missed gutshot is A3 and that's probably raising preflop.

Judging by the A6 hand,i wouldn't expect him to bet many 6's on turn,but two flush draws out and lots of draws so he could bet thinking he is good and protect.Pretty close,i'd fold even if he is polar,he would probably raise most suited cards preflop so he can't have that many missed draws.Also he could've limped something strong.
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09-24-2010 , 05:07 AM
Meh, I'd call river just to see him slowplay aces or something. I have a really hard time putting him on a hand that beats us.

- I expect him to raise better 9's pre.
- There are really no 2-pairs on the flop.
- He doesn't bet a 6 on the turn unless he has a draw to go with it.
- That leaves him with 22 and 44 I guess that beat us, which is a really thin range

Could he play a weaker 9 this way as well?

River looks really close. I hope some higher stakes players reply.
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09-24-2010 , 05:10 AM
I don't think you can fold here
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09-24-2010 , 07:28 AM
after seeing that A6 hand he will never play a weaker 9 like that ever, so you are only beating a bluff, and the only bluff that makes sense is a missed flush draw, if you don;t have the information that he is playing his draw like that and bluff when missed then this is a fold i think
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09-24-2010 , 07:48 AM
I think I call as well.
A set (on the flop) is rather unlikely given the fact he did not raise pre.
If he had 2 pair on the flop, they are counterfitted now.
Only draw he could have completed is 53.
If he has a decent hand, and puts you on something like a flushdraw or a weak pair, he would bet smaller on the river.
He could play A9, K9, Q9 like this, but most ppl raise those preflop.

So: Call and see his 56 ? :-)
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09-24-2010 , 08:01 AM
if he had two pair on the flop he is cecking the river in position
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09-24-2010 , 08:48 AM
I think you see missed diamonds a ton here when you look him up.
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09-24-2010 , 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by lennytheduck
I think you see missed diamonds a ton here when you look him up.
That's no doubt the hand that makes the most sence.
How often will he have the 6 though?
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09-24-2010 , 09:07 AM
he looks very passive postflop w/ ur reads, i fold river
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09-24-2010 , 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by miniwiz
The only missed gutshot is A3 and that's probably raising preflop.

Judging by the A6 hand,i wouldn't expect him to bet many 6's on turn,but two flush draws out and lots of draws so he could bet thinking he is good and protect.Pretty close,i'd fold even if he is polar,he would probably raise most suited cards preflop so he can't have that many missed draws.Also he could've limped something strong.
this makes the most sense and is a perfect answer to nederlander
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09-24-2010 , 10:01 AM
It's close and I don't think folding or calling is a mistake. FWIW, im station-y and im snapping it off without feeling bad about it.
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09-24-2010 , 10:33 AM
villain has 5d3d. fold turn .

imo, realistically, this should be a hand a large % of the time on the turn. The check back on the A97Jr board with A6 should tell you he is weak/tight, afraid of putting his chips in marginal spots.

also, maybe it's just me, but I'd be fairly nitty playing a guy that is b/e @ 7s avg stake and now playing 100s cause he luckboxed a donkament.
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09-24-2010 , 10:48 AM
22 and 44 are a big part of his range imo
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09-24-2010 , 10:53 AM
very true. I'd have a tough time jamming river if i had 53.
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09-24-2010 , 11:19 AM
not if you knew villian would call down with Jd9h

rofl
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09-24-2010 , 12:23 PM
call imo and not even a particularly close one
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09-24-2010 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by borderline
also, maybe it's just me, but I'd be fairly nitty playing a guy that is b/e @ 7s avg stake and now playing 100s cause he luckboxed a donkament.
def think this is solid esp given his A6o

as the hand played out i thought 22 and 44 were raising pre more often than they were flatting IP (this may be a bad assumption to be making i guess, just kinda figured raise is more std but not sure v a $7 b/e).

def thought 53 was some portion of his range... but also wondered whether he was raising the flop with it. didnt really think there was much A3/A5 stuff in range tbh, kinda auto ruled it out when he raised the flop.

at the time i really thought his range contained alot of 92 94 42 hands... he hadnt folded a btn, and may have limped once or twice (not super sure cept that he never folded, but i didnt want to go and assume that he wasnt limping ATC when he raised that flop). i guess 92 and 94 almost always ch back the river tho after being counterfeited, and 42 most of the the time too i guess rather than turn its sdv into a bluff.

obv dd is a big part of his range also, didnt consider it much at the time but given the passive way he played his A6o I think he is possibly more likely to ch his fds behind on the turn to try bink river... agree/disagree? if so the river becomes a bit more foldy
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09-24-2010 , 01:31 PM
raise pre
putting people on 2card flushdraws too much is a mistake in hu sng's
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09-24-2010 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by borderline
villain has 5d3d. fold turn .

imo, realistically, this should be a hand a large % of the time on the turn. The check back on the A97Jr board with A6 should tell you he is weak/tight, afraid of putting his chips in marginal spots.

also, maybe it's just me, but I'd be fairly nitty playing a guy that is b/e @ 7s avg stake and now playing 100s cause he luckboxed a donkament.
This is no indication of weak tight imo. Pretty std to check back the turn vs a lot of opponents.
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09-24-2010 , 03:22 PM
i dont think this villain is good enough to value bet a better 9 in this way. So, it is either an over pair, flopped set, and tons of air possibilities. So id call.
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09-24-2010 , 03:53 PM
call
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09-24-2010 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by nicecatch08
i dont think this villain is good enough to value bet a better 9 in this way. So, it is either an over pair, flopped set, and tons of air possibilities. So id call.
this is assuming hes a decent reg.

but he plays 6 HUSNG or w/e, not 100's, and is break even ( per borderline)
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