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04-01-2011 , 08:06 AM

sqydro

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 530

Poker Stars, $11 Buy-in (10/20 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BB: 1,590 (79.5 bb)
Hero (SB): 1,410 (70.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T

Hero raises to 40, BB raises to 60, Hero calls 20

Flop: (120) Q

(2 players)
BB bets 80, Hero raises to 200, BB calls 120

Turn: (520) 8

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (520) 5

(2 players)
BB bets 140, Hero raises to 360, BB calls 220

Spoiler:

should i have jammed the turn or river here to try and get all the chips in the middle? its only a few hands in but villain is a donk, calling station type. but i dont wanna scare him out the hand, should i have bet the turn then fold if i missed my flush? thoughts please. thanks in advance

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04-01-2011 , 08:26 AM

Joe Knott

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Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 431

i'd flat on the flop against a calling station in min3bet pot, the rest of the hand is well played, hard to get a player without a fold button to fold many better hands on the turn

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04-01-2011 , 08:38 AM

Air-Bear

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,983

How do you raise river so small vs a "calling station donk"? I'd go 550 or something.

I prefer a flat otf unless villain will call and ch the turn with a lot of his range as he did now(then you're paying a good price for a turn and rivercard)

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04-01-2011 , 09:02 AM

Punch Dancer

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His hand is fairly face up by the river. Bet as much as you think he'll call w/ AX

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04-01-2011 , 09:21 AM

MidHuSnGReG

banned

Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 84

flop ch/c
turn ch/c
river fine.

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04-01-2011 , 09:27 AM

Hookt

adept

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I don't think you should bet the turn against this opponent. The flop is fine if he doesn't donk bet a lot of turns. I would raise larger on the river because he has got a lot of aces (calling stations aren't re-raising a lot preflop so AT+ is a lot of his range) and he doesn't like folding top pair.

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04-01-2011 , 10:41 AM

sqydro

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Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 530

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Originally Posted by Air-Bear

yeah i was thinkin this was a better bet size but if he folds then i miss out on him calling a smaller bet maybe??

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04-01-2011 , 10:43 AM

Punch Dancer

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Originally Posted by sqydro

yeah i was thinkin this was a better bet size but if he folds then i miss out on him calling a smaller bet maybe??

what I do alot of times here is ask myself this: "would I ever bluff here, if I did what sizing would I use". I think it would be fk'ing suicide to make a bluff of around 700 chips, so that's what I'd valuebet.

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04-01-2011 , 10:48 AM

Slangenkind

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Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 155

I would just call the flop, turn is fine. I would raise the river to something around 500.

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04-01-2011 , 10:59 AM

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RoyaltyFree

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 294

call the flop. Checking back the turn is very good. On River you probably could of got a little more out of him.

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04-01-2011 , 11:41 AM

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ohly

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Originally Posted by Punch Dancer

what I do alot of times here is ask myself this: "would I ever bluff here, if I did what sizing would I use". I think it would be fk'ing suicide to make a bluff of around 700 chips, so that's what I'd valuebet.

that's what she said.

nah seriously, listen to that man, villain won't fold TP+.

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