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09-24-2010 , 12:09 PM
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Villain likes to 3bet enough wide to defend QJ. He allso plays tight post.
Maby he hit the T, but becouse i dont knwo mutch about semi bluffing then is this a good spot to ck/shove? Or stnd call, given all our live cards?

Full Tilt Poker No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t20.00/t40.00 Blinds - 2 players - View hand 946368
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Hero (BTN/SB): t1685.00 42.12 BBs
BB: t1315.00 32.88 BBs

Pre Flop: (t60) Hero is BTN/SB with Q J
Hero raises to t80, BB raises to t155, Hero calls t75

Flop: (t310) 4 9 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t310) T (2 players)
BB bets t186.00, Hero ???
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09-24-2010 , 01:47 PM
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I'm calling really wide pf after this tard 3bets, so thats fine.

I usualy lead if checked to me. Maybe thats a leak, but it works suprisingly well. I might even bet less than 1/2 pot if I know villain doesn't really care about bet sizing (which often they don't at 11$ level) to min my loses when I get c/raised.

I would prob call turn and see what river brings.

A T makes no dif imo, he is betting couse you checked.
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09-24-2010 , 01:53 PM
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Yeah, I would call and see what river brings and he does. You have just picked up an OESD plus at least one overcard (more often than not), and the pot odd justifies calling.
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09-24-2010 , 02:01 PM
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Yeah, I would call and see what river brings and he does. You have just picked up an OESD plus at least one overcard (more often than not), and the pot odd justifies calling.
Not really. We have 6+8 outs at best.

Caling 186 in to 496 we would need 37,5% equity to justify the call.

I would prob call, but pot odds aren't good.
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09-24-2010 , 02:07 PM
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I really don't understand flatting QJ if we plan to take a passive line when checked to.
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09-24-2010 , 02:14 PM
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I really don't understand flatting QJ if we plan to take a passive line when checked to.
Then u should watch in HEM how mutch money u burn in 3bet pots.
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09-24-2010 , 02:14 PM
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Not really. We have 6+8 outs at best.

Caling 186 in to 496 we would need 37,5% equity to justify the call.

I would prob call, but pot odds aren't good.
True, I forgot to mention about the implied odds. If hero spikes K or 8, he should be paid off; Q or J will roughly do the same thing too.
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09-24-2010 , 02:54 PM
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Then u should watch in HEM how mutch money u burn in 3bet pots.
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09-24-2010 , 03:12 PM
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What he is trying to say is that you shouldn't be spewing money just because you are in a 3bet pot.

I would actualy bet in this situation, but I do agree that just because you decided to defend against his 3betting range you are not obliged to bet when checked to you.
I even belive that people will try to make some illogical plays and trap you, so you should be careful in 3bet pots.
Bet for value, and bet big when you do that and learn how to check/fold when nedeed.

Haluebet, am I close?
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09-24-2010 , 03:20 PM
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whats his 3b cbet %?

i'd be inclined to 3barrell once he checks this flop depending on board runout.

as played i 'm not folding. vs some opponents i jam. vs most i flat this turn.
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09-24-2010 , 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by wabomushroom
What he is trying to say is that you shouldn't be spewing money just because you are in a 3bet pot.

I would actualy bet in this situation, but I do agree that just because you decided to defend against his 3betting range you are not obliged to bet when checked to you.
I even belive that people will try to make some illogical plays and trap you, so you should be careful in 3bet pots.
Bet for value, and bet big when you do that and learn how to check/fold when nedeed.

Haluebet, am I close?
This is HOT

Ty jayluf.
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09-24-2010 , 03:39 PM
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You say he's tight post flop but what about his cbet tendencies? I would think he'd be leading this board if he had a decent pp, QK, or AJ+.

I would think firing on the flop after he checks to you would be a good play, and if he calls I would certainly fire again on the turn picking up the open ender. Unsure if it'd be better to be bigger than 2/3 on the flop to jam the turn or smaller and 3 barrel.

I'm calling the turn as played, unsure about what river cards would be good to fire if checked (besides ones that make us top pair+).
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09-25-2010 , 03:23 AM
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You say he's tight post flop but what about his cbet tendencies? I would think he'd be leading this board if he had a decent pp, QK, or AJ+.

He mostly check, hes showdown value on drie flops (this is the first 3bet pot)
I doubt that nobody fold 2 overs on 3bet pot on this similar board to c-bet.
Obv he can ck/r me that board with bunch of hands which is far-spread move in 3bet pot-s.

So is ist better to ck/jam turn to chk/bet chk/bet? allso if hes fire that turn im pretty sure he has something 9x/Tx/over pair, but i dont know can he fold these hands :S
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