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12-09-2010 , 10:23 AM

rollinas

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 591

Villain is losing player, dont have too many reads on him, i know he plays his draws fast, 3bets wide preflop like [I saw K9o, Q7o also strong hands] and cbets close to 100%, rarely folds when I cbet

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12-09-2010 , 10:47 AM

jackxer

adept

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 806

seems super standard against a fish. dont level yourself. whenever this happens to me i always think about whether or not it was a good move to shove and when you look at it from an outside perspective, it always is good to shove

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12-09-2010 , 01:51 PM

miniwiz

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,971

wtf you really need to ask?

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12-09-2010 , 07:12 PM

BitchiBee

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 24,622

I prefer flat, and call/shove any non 7 turn

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12-10-2010 , 01:46 AM

Newff

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Easy shove

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12-10-2010 , 01:53 AM

HU JREN

newbie

Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 47

Yeah I would be shoving in that spot 100% of the time.

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12-10-2010 , 04:27 AM

Fumitto

adept

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 703

Get in it on the flop every time.

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12-10-2010 , 04:33 AM

Sol Reader

The Situation

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 9,380

Never fold, but shoving may not be the best option. That said I think neither can be huge mistakes so shoving if you're not sure is fine.

I really don't think it's correct o get it in on the flop everytime because I do think it's profitable to have a strongish bet/call range also that can stack off bricks. I know balance is not an issue vs fish but it's +EV in a vacuum too.

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12-10-2010 , 05:24 AM

Tamas6

See my staking thread

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,854

Since we have blockers to the nuts his hand will be something like j9 type hands flush draws draws and 2 pair. Vs this range I think the flop is a must raise for value/protection. You are actually in a much better spot here with QQ than with KK or AA IMO

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12-10-2010 , 04:20 PM

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sbthekid2488

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Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 131

Snap shove fist pump

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