Villain is a fish. He is limping 45% and raising 30% his BTN. Loo'ks passive but still too little samplesize.

I have no idea how to proceed in this turn.

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Stacks:
SB asteburu (324) 8bb
BB Hero (676) 17bb

Blinds: 20/40

Pre-Flop: (60, 2 players) Hero is BB 8 6
asteburu calls 20, Hero checks

Flop: 8 3 7 (80, 2 players)
Hero bets 42, asteburu calls 42

Turn: J (164, 2 players)
Hero (594)?

Bet small/stack off. I would imagine he raises flop with anything that beats you and most of the time with flushdraw as well. Fish will probably continue against a small bet with any equity. Also if he ships it, he can still have alot of hands that picked up extra equity on this turn but you still beat them.

id just jam, doubt he folds any pairs, also I think even low fd will call pretty often jam this deep

would you donk jam this in a 16bb deep minraised pot? because that's same stp ratio

15bb minraised pot this hand would be played differently, I just think we are losing value by betting small, board is developing good for 3ple barreling air and we dont want to see another heart and imo he will call often enough jam

c/c or maybe b/c something like 105. our hand sucks ass on this runout

Is everyone donking this on flop? Most people tend to stab more in limp pots than raised pots so my standard would be to c/r at this depth here. I think leading would be better with deeper stacks as it leaves more room for villain to spazz (raise small, etc).

As played I think b/c turn too.

Obviously if you have a read that he checks back air in limp pot then forget what I said. wp with donk bet

SPR is the same but ranges are quite different, so that's irrelevant.

I probably c/r on flop, as played b/c but stacks and board texture are both awkward

I would probably just c/c vs small bet c/j vs big. Really not sure we get called that much by worse when jamming and a lot of really strange river spots if we get called betting small.

Def. betting the flop vs described villain.

Turn looks like a b/f if I'm not missing sth here.

Tough to bet without committing

If he's too passive turn can be b/f as well, but like I said stack size is just too awkward either way. But that might be better than b/c because we can be drawing dead when getting it in on turn, and being committed doesn't mean much if we have like ~0% equity.

We can probably bet small and get away with it, assuming passive opponents won't bluff raise very often in this spot. Flop I'm not quite sure though, even passive opponents tend to stab in limped pots so checking (with the intention of c/r obv) might still have a better EV.

If OP had some stats on villain's cbet, that would help.

imo we cannot bet-fold on the turn. something small like 1/3 pot leaves us with ~25% equity needed, and if we bet that small we cannot exclude the possibility of him raising worse pair+hearts or combo draw and against a bunch of better hands like Jx we have 5-10% equity left, so he has to be quite nutty, in a spot where his overall range ott is mostly nonnutted, for bet-folding to be correct.

Eh, hard to see a passive villain (this is the assumption that we are revolving around) raising worse pair + draw here often enough. Even against small bets I think they would flat more often than raise, so when they raise I don't think we would have ~25% equity tbh.

In game I might still b/c because we don't quite know if he's that passive or not. But in theory vs. a passive opponent (hence we donked on flop), we can find a b/f imo

He stabbed 2/6 limped pots and was a potbet; i folded twice so no reads.

I am not convinced about b/f without having the correct odds to call. I dont like either checking (i did that, my plan was c/shoving) because he is gonna check all the 7x, GS+FD, etc and this hands are probably calling a shove.

I think jamming vs this kind of opponent is superior to b/f; but idk if b/c small is better. Dont know if all of you realize that villain has 262 chips and the pot 164 chips, not the same ratio as 16 bb in m-r pot.

Thanks guys. I let you see how not to play this hand ott.



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Stacks:
SB asteburu (324) 8bb
BB Hero (676) 17bb

Blinds: 20/40

Pre-Flop: (60, 2 players) Hero is BB 8 6
asteburu calls 20, Hero checks

Flop: 8 3 7 (80, 2 players)
Hero bets 42, asteburu calls 42

Turn: J (164, 2 players)
Hero checks, asteburu bets 240, Hero folds

Eh, I don't think you misplayed it very much tbh. Although checking turn might be worse than betting, I can't see a passive opponent going crazy all of a sudden just because he saw you checking the turn

what about betting bigger otf? especially since you mentioned he is potting himself a lot.

Yeah that sounds a decent option too, setting up better stacks for turn shove. Downside might be that it pretty much takes flop raise away from him with draw or weak hands, but he probably wasn't gonna do that very often vs. our smaller bet anyway.

+1

Not necessarily. Sure u lose 1/2 your chips but if he raises your turn bet of say 80, he's ahead, 25% equity not likely possible.

I prefer b/f to c/f or jam on turn...