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Old 03-02-2011, 01:05 PM   #1
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10$ tpnk+fd line check

first c/r of villain, he's a losing player, no good reads at all (few hands)


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BB (t1720)
Hero (SB) (t1280)

Hero's M: 42.67

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4, 10
Hero bets t60, BB calls t40

Flop: (t120) 5, 10, 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t60, BB raises to t120, Hero calls t60

Turn: (t360) J (2 players)
BB bets t200, Hero calls t200

River: (t760) 5 (2 players)
BB bets t340, Hero folds
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Old 03-02-2011, 07:36 PM   #2
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Re: 10$ tpnk+fd line check

It seems that shoving or folding turn either is better than calling
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Old 03-02-2011, 08:05 PM   #3
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Re: 10$ tpnk+fd line check

Why is this flopton?
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Old 03-02-2011, 08:42 PM   #4
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Re: 10$ tpnk+fd line check

i think i fold the turn here
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Old 03-02-2011, 08:44 PM   #5
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Re: 10$ tpnk+fd line check

if you call the turn, the river is a very good card for you btw.
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Old 03-03-2011, 03:53 AM   #6
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Re: 10$ tpnk+fd line check

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if you call the turn, the river is a very good card for you btw.
sure the 5 changes nothing, but he's firing again with a classic valuebet. There are to many better Tx/2p in his range, probably fold turn is the way
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Old 03-03-2011, 04:14 AM   #7
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Re: 10$ tpnk+fd line check

I think its a call if he is a heavily losing player. You have to be right 1 in 4, and if you call
you get to see what he c/r with and how he played it on later streets. His line looks strong, but I think a bad player can make this play as often as 1 in 4.
From his point of view (if he has any) you can be chasing a draw, and all the draws
missed on the river.

It would be incorrect to fold turn because with 12 outs you have the odds
(even without implied odds), and if you shove, I dont think you are folding out anything that has equity against you.

I think you are drawing the conclusion that fold turn is correct because of the results of the actual hand.
If you hit your flush, and he bet half pot on the river, would you still say turn is a fold? Forget about results...

All in all, well played.
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Old 03-03-2011, 04:21 AM   #8
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Re: 10$ tpnk+fd line check

shoving turn is very bad, turn call is a bit closer, but I would make it. nh
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Old 03-03-2011, 04:28 AM   #9
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Re: 10$ tpnk+fd line check

Call turn is pretty std since we have HUGE implied odds here.
lol @ people saying shoving turn is the way to go.

river is a clear fold
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Old 03-03-2011, 06:26 AM   #10
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yea wtf we have a flushdraw vs a very strong line, just call turn and stack him if we hit and fold otherwise
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Old 03-03-2011, 07:28 AM   #11
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nh. lol at shoving or folding turn against a fish.
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