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10$ facing pot bet after min 3b w/ flush draw 10$ facing pot bet after min 3b w/ flush draw

10-04-2012 , 01:59 PM
Villain is 89/59/24 over 75 hands

I dont think his pot bet means a strong hand here on flop and even if he has 2nd pair I am EV+ with a shove.

What is optimal play on flop?


[converted_hand][hand_history]On Game, $10 Buy-in (15/30 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #14071472

Hero (SB): 1,385 (46.2 bb)
BB: 1,615 (53.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J 8
Hero raises to 75, BB raises to 150, Hero calls 75

Flop: (300) 7 K 2 (2 players)
BB bets 300 Hero ?
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10-04-2012 , 02:15 PM
Rather than numbers without connection, you should give % based on his sb/bb play.
Again, mr pre.
Jam flop is surely +ev.
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10-04-2012 , 02:32 PM
Mr pre as he 3bets alot, any reads on betsizing on different board texture? Any c/r or 2bet on flop history?
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10-04-2012 , 04:37 PM
What's Mr pre?

I do not recall any tendencies, just judging by the majority a play like this with Kx does not make much sense and we beat 7x by a decent chunk and aren't bad against 88-QQ not to mention all the bull**** bluffs he might be making here
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10-04-2012 , 04:59 PM
MR= minraise , as he is 3betting fairly wide taking his stats into account. I would shove this prolly aswell but some ppl tend to bet way too high with air/nutted hands so if we had bit more info about that it would be nice but shoving seems good
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10-04-2012 , 09:11 PM
From experience I think potting this board after the small 3 bet could mean a lot of things. Depending on how much of a maniac said villian is I wouldn't be surprised at a potbet fold or even call situation with a hand like Ax that completely missed the flop but is willing to bet pot for whatever reason. In a situation like this the most important part is the amount of equity j8c has on a board texture like this. Even when villian has Kx we have about 36% and if we get a call from a no pair hand or a 1 pair hand 7s or lower we are a slight favorite. Combine this with the added equity we acquire if our opponent bets 300 and folds in this spot makes this a pretty clear shove.
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10-05-2012 , 01:21 AM
Ok ty guys I shoved and he showed up with kq lol
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10-05-2012 , 07:45 AM
Took me a while to get around this hand. For one, he seems nutted to me, and for two villain rarely has 7x here even though he could, but in general I don't expect this from a random 24% 3bet. As a standard I think they're flatting 75-Q7 with some exceptions, and 3betting a more transparent range.

I do think however that we're going to see A2, A7, some other spazz Ax, Kx and a lot of PPs, so I'm happy to get it in against that range. So after all, he may not be as nutted as he is looking to protect his hand.
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