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Old 03-01-2011, 05:39 PM   #1
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$10 Facing 4bet w/ 88

Villain's:
Button raise 52%
Flop Cbet 86%
Big Blind 3bet steal 32%

I was practically card dead whole game, so this may have been my 2nd 3bet (he folded the first time), so I have no stats on his 4bet %

Not sure if it's better to fold pre or flat and evaluate on flop vs someone like this, he seemed very aggressive on the flop + whenever I raised.

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Hero (BB): t1680 56 BBs
BTN/SB: t1320 44 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BB with 8 8
BTN/SB raises to t60, Hero raises to t180, BTN/SB raises to t450, Hero calls t270

Flop: (t900) 3 6 6 (2 players)
Hero ???
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Old 03-01-2011, 05:51 PM   #2
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Re: $10 Facing 4bet w/ 88

Given your reads, this hand can probably go either way. 77 is a fold, 99 is an easy shove in my opinion. Flip a coin I say, heads shove, tails fold. As played, I'm never folding that flop.
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Old 03-01-2011, 05:53 PM   #3
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Re: $10 Facing 4bet w/ 88

not flatting pre ever, either shove or fold. as played what kind of flop were you waiting for, 88x?
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Old 03-01-2011, 06:47 PM   #4
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Re: $10 Facing 4bet w/ 88

We need 43% equity for this to be a shove (Assuming hes never folding if we ship). We have approximately 43% vs [77+ aj+] so its a ship if he 4bets to this size with a wider range than that. Id probably fold it given that its only the 2d time we 3bet, so really no reason for him to be 4betting wide.
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Old 03-01-2011, 08:10 PM   #5
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Re: $10 Facing 4bet w/ 88

shove or fold pre, as played shove flop.
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Old 03-01-2011, 08:55 PM   #6
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Re: $10 Facing 4bet w/ 88

Best flop I ever saw for 88, imo.
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Old 03-01-2011, 09:00 PM   #7
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Re: $10 Facing 4bet w/ 88

check then jam but that being said, flatting is retarded
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Old 03-02-2011, 03:38 AM   #8
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Re: $10 Facing 4bet w/ 88

If the flop had brought onw overcard we are jamming always (as played pre)?
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Old 03-02-2011, 05:14 AM   #9
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Re: $10 Facing 4bet w/ 88

As played pre is kind of a retarded question here, but...

depends on the overcard, the only one that's really bad is Ax.
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