Reads up to this point:

-he folded his first 3 buttons and folded to 2/3 of my buttons (I folded a button)
- I called his first button raise and c/f to a 3/4 bet on a 6KQ flop
- my next 2 opens he called and c/r my 1/2 pot cbet to 143 - once on a J7Kr flop and the second on a 34Kr flop
- he opened the next hand and I folded
- he called my next open and folded to my cbet on a 766 flop
- he folded his button


Poker Stars $10.00+$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
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Hero (BTN/SB): t1340 67 BBs
BB: t1660 83 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with A J
Hero raises to t50, BB calls t30

Flop: (t100) 4 T 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t100) 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (t100) 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t60, BB raises to t143, Hero?

Didn't cbet here because I expect this flop to hit his range pretty good and don't want to be c/r'ed. River is for real thin value - from worse Ax, and Kx. His river c/r doesn't make sense to me as I would expect him to bet a T or a 9 on the turn or river and really don't think he plays a 7 like this, set, or straight. So...

1)river to thin?
2)fold to c/r?

2nd hand, 50 hands in.

reads up to this hand:

- 3x w 66 and cbet 3/4 5K8 flop shutting down ui when I called his flop bet
- he raised a about 1/2 of his buttons - but excessive sizing - 4x
- he 3bet me twice - 3x
-3x at 15/30 and called a 3bet to 260. He shoved over my 275/520 cbet for 1400 on a J6Jr flop and I folded. I had AKo - anyone call?
- pretty much just passed around blinds - he folded a few buttons and so did I but no post flop play


Poker Stars $10.00+$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 2 players
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Hero (BTN/SB): t717 23.90 BBs
BB: t2283 76.10 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BTN/SB with Q 9
Hero raises to t60, BB calls t30

Flop: (t120) 7 Q 3 (2 players)
BB bets t60, Hero calls t60

Turn: (t240) 8 (2 players)
BB bets t120, Hero calls t120

River: (t480) 5 (2 players)
BB bets t360, Hero?


Feel beat, comments on all streets appreciated.

1st hand
since it seems like you are really frustrated/curious about what he bets 143 w/ i would call on riv.. its only 83 more and then youll have a better read for the future.
i live betting the turn > riv here in this case though. if you got called on that turn, you could just check back on riv and see the showdown for free.

2nd hand
seems pretty close, but im going to call. i think u could expect better Qx, a flush, and lesser Qx at these stakes. not loving the spot im in here though at all and would have raised flop for value.

Check river hand one.

Raise flop in hand two.

+1 Why would you bet river in hand 1? Makes 0 sense

you can bet turn for value in hand 1.

Thanks for the advice.

Hand 1 - I've been experimenting with really thin value bets on the river. I think when it gets checked down like this then there could be a lot of Ax and Kx in villians range. I think he's leading turn with a large range after I check behind the flop - both with his made hands like 9x and Tx (for value and preventing me from getting aother free with my overs) as well as his non-showdown hands (like 87, 67s, J8) to chase out Ax and Kx. Granted villian could also play 22-33, 55 and maybe 66 like this, I just think when we get to the river like this there could be more Ax, Kx in his range and my kicker plays.

He probably expects me to check behind on the river with Ax, or Kx so when I bet here I expect him to call almost always with Ax and sometimes with Kx as it looks like I'm betting to chase out overcards. Kept the sizing small to encourage a call from weaker Ax, Kx.

Anyways betting turn is interesting - could you expand on why turn is better than river? (is it if we get called we still have a street to improve?)

Hand 2 - was unsure if raising his donk would be a good play. I guess we get value from Fd's and 7x and worse Qx but expect he has a tight calling range so can discount a lot of 7x, and worse Qx. Then again, small sample size.

I guess if were raising his donk we are expecting to get it in here?

Hand 1:
I think it doesn't make a big difference if u bet this river if u didn't bet turn. It's fun, so do it imo. It's true that his range is not defined (doesn't make sense) but at the same time, he really has no need to bluff here, so majority of a time it's something stupid slowplay etc.

There is breed of villains who cr river just for lulz if ur range seems weak, but u should find that out pretty soon.

hand 1: cb river, too thin against the average opponent
hand 2: raise flop for value as this is almost never a strong hand

imo

why didnt you cbet in hand 1 i stopped reading there

ok i read it but fear of getting cr from described villain isnt going to happen often enough not to cbet

hand 1: look at what you're repping. remember, it's hard to rep anything when you don't bet the flop. Yeah he raises and that's another story, but you expose yourself too much when you bet and can't rep anything.

hand 2: raise flop for value from 7x, 3x, draws. playing passively in these spots lets them bet and bink on later streets and make you look silly when your top pair gets valuetowned.

Ya I think thats the key. I'm not trying to rep anything, just betting for value (though it's really thin). Recently i've noticed a lot of real thin value bets from donks (though I'm not even sure they know it) when they bet with btm pair or a weak hand on a board they should check behind. They bet small and I end up "bluff catching" and lose a small bet so thought I would experiment with it. Really didn't expect to get c/r here.

But I understand what your saying - these spots leave us open to be taken advantage of.