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10$ 2nd hand, K7 on 474 flop facing big c/r

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02-21-2011 , 03:40 PM

kasparovski

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First hand he limped and lead 1bb on a 8k4 flop.

2nd:

No Limit Holdem Tournament
2 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
BTN kasparovski (1,480)
BB eyewin577 (1,520)

Blinds: 10/20

Pre-Flop: (30, 2 players) kasparovski is BTN K

kasparovski raises to 60, eyewin577 raises to 100, kasparovski calls 40

Flop: 4

(200, 2 players)
eyewin577 checks, kasparovski bets 100, eyewin577 raises to 580, kasparovski folds

Final Pot: 880

eyewin577 wins 880 (net +200)

kasparovski lost 200

is my line ok here?

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02-21-2011 , 03:43 PM

jackxer

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seems fine

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02-21-2011 , 03:47 PM

Air-Bear

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I get it in, we have the 2nd best kicker and the best pair and there are quite some draws that could play like this.

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02-21-2011 , 04:10 PM

Lebo44

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If he's quite solid/tight player and you rarely bet paired flop, his reraise is probably fake bluff (I mean, he has 4 in his hand or an overpair).

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02-21-2011 , 04:12 PM

nicecatch08

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this is any ez all in.

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02-21-2011 , 04:26 PM

Happyz

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think folding is fine here since its the 2nd hand going to be better places then this.
based on the minraise c/r on this paired realtive lowboard i think he have a overpair here a lot

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02-21-2011 , 04:38 PM

Alexxyo

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i call, then call if he shoves any turn. Doesn't feel like a 4, don't think he would raise that big ever with a 4 or 77, only hand i would be afraid of is 88+ but idc i get it in here or call/call

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02-22-2011 , 05:16 AM

IBustoYou

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FOLD in early is ok ... this minraise preflop often mean PP ...

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02-22-2011 , 06:48 AM

zachaser

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Originally Posted by Air-Bear

I get it in, we have the 2nd best kicker and the best pair and there are quite some draws that could play like this.

You think he has air/worse value hands enough here? This seems like a spot you try to avoid early and readless. He can have overpairs, 4x, and 7x that beat us; worse 7x, straight draws that we beat, all flush draws with two cards higher than 7 are a small favorite over us.

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02-22-2011 , 07:44 AM

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mela

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Originally Posted by zachaser

Not that it matters a whole lot, but we are slightly ahead of FD

It's hard to narrow down his range in this spot, but I agree that in most cases we are either flip (FD + overs) where we are slightly ahead or heavily dominated (overpair most likely, 4x not very likely but possible). He should have some air/bluff as well and the hands that we beat like 7x and 22-33 and 55-66, but those are not a huge part of his range imo.

So we're rarely ahead of his range, plus I don't think we have much FE if we shove here. This sums up to a fold.. to me it seems.

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02-22-2011 , 07:48 AM

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Tamas6

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edit: def stacking off.

we have top pair vs someone who min 3b. these guys r spazzy !

Last edited by Tamas6; 02-22-2011 at 07:49 AM. Reason: i am a retard

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02-22-2011 , 08:46 AM

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wut_teh_hell

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had he had a big pocket pair he would be slowplayin that given the fact that the flop is unlikey to have hit you. I assume there are tons of hands like AK, AQ, AJ in his hand that are trying to push you off of what is gonna be a worst hand most of the time.
it's a standard call in my opinion(and get it in on the turn no matter what card comes).

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