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10-17-2010 , 04:29 PM
Hey everyone, I'm with a dilemma in my hands, i have been playing the $50 and $80 Normal Heads up and 40 and 80 HU shootout 4players in FT, and have been well succeed playing 1 table.

my stats soo far:979 $11 $58 18% $10,875 FullTilt E<=4 S36-100 G=H NoLim Spd=NoSuperTurbos Heads Up SNG Only

My question is: should i try to learn to play 2 tables at same time with this stats? Obviously i would need to have a roi >9% to be more profitable than playing one.Is Roi>9% too dificult to achieve making 2 tables at this stakes?

Here are some things i stay thinking all day:

Why should i play 1 table:

My game is a lot about reading my oponent and adapting to him i must have total focus and soo far when i play 2 i stay completely lost in both games, play level 1 thinking .
Soo far i suck playing 2 tables at same time, make bad decisions and miss reads, soo the learn to play 2 tables would start from 0.
i hate Variance.

Why should i play 2 tables:

Less Lose of time in lobby not playing.
More Volume.
More profitiable for all good reg player that i know.

Soo after saying all that, i would like the opnion of people who made this decision before or know the best exit for this old dilemma.

and plz add pros and cons of playing 1 table and 2 tables that i forgot.
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10-17-2010 , 07:02 PM
yea i have the same problem 2 tabling so ive stuck with 1 tabling. it probably just takes a lot of practice to get used to 2 tabling effectively
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10-17-2010 , 07:16 PM
I like playing 2 but at first it was hard to get used to. Some people can only play one I'm not sure what some of these high stakes regs think but I would like to hear their opion on it
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10-17-2010 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by sheriffolds
I like playing 2 but at first it was hard to get used to. Some people can only play one I'm not sure what some of these high stakes regs think but I would like to hear their opion on it
I really would like to hear there opnion too
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10-17-2010 , 08:38 PM
'i hate variance' isnt really a reason to play 1table, since u will put much more games, and 'go through' variance easily whily your winrate at lower stakes isnt really that lower 2tabling

i think u should focus first on at least moving up to 33s/55s, getting your game a bit more solid and then start 2tabling if u need money $$... to many donks at those stakes that u dont really need to 1table

if u really dont need the money, and have time to put a semi-decent volume while 2tabling then i would 1table and focus on improving/moving up

your avatar btw
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10-17-2010 , 08:40 PM
also, if u do start 2tabling, just start by taking something like 3-5s for each decision and slowing the pace of the game, it will make much easier to start
and increase your note-taking abillities
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10-17-2010 , 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Deepak
'i hate variance' isnt really a reason to play 1table
yes it is lol
try some simulation runs and see what graphs look better in general:
1k games @ 5% roi
2k games @ 2.5% roi
disregarding rakeback they should have same profit in general, 5% roi will have a lot less swongs though
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10-17-2010 , 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by spamz
yes it is lol
try some simulation runs and see what graphs look better in general:
1k games @ 5% roi
2k games @ 2.5% roi
disregarding rakeback they should have same profit in general, 5% roi will have a lot less swongs though
Ok I'm not trying to be a creep but are you guys saying there is more var. In playing 1 table?? I dont understand
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10-17-2010 , 09:05 PM
no, the lower roi, the higher variance
ergo 2tabling will have more variance
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10-17-2010 , 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by sheriffolds
Ok I'm not trying to be a creep but are you guys saying there is more var. In playing 1 table?? I dont understand
na less variance with 1 table. Your ROI in general is going to be lower with the addition of more tables however this is usually compensated by a higher hourly.

1 table = less variance
2+ = more variance
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10-17-2010 , 09:08 PM
what spamz is saying is that there is more varience when you have a lower ROI, well negative varience anyway ie downswings.

edit: im slow
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10-17-2010 , 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Deepak
'i hate variance' isnt really a reason to play 1table, since u will put much more games, and 'go through' variance easily whily your winrate at lower stakes isnt really that lower 2tabling

i think u should focus first on at least moving up to 33s/55s, getting your game a bit more solid and then start 2tabling if u need money $$... to many donks at those stakes that u dont really need to 1table

if u really dont need the money, and have time to put a semi-decent volume while 2tabling then i would 1table and focus on improving/moving up

your avatar btw
when u say moving up to 33s and 55s u r talking about playing turbo right?
if u are, I dont really would like to make this change this year, want to play at least 5k regular before changing...(and while playing doing what u said trying to improve my game always!)
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10-17-2010 , 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by spamz
yes it is lol
try some simulation runs and see what graphs look better in general:
1k games @ 5% roi
2k games @ 2.5% roi
disregarding rakeback they should have same profit in general, 5% roi will have a lot less swongs though
what i meant is, 2tabling variance doesnt affect as much, at least for me, its way easier to lose 6-0 while 2tabling then 2-0 while 1tabling, so its easier to 'go through variance', what i said before

and on our stakes if we have 1/2 the winrate 2tabling, then i guess we are doing it wrong

i never said 2tabling = less variance
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10-17-2010 , 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by FCesario
when u say moving up to 33s and 55s u r talking about playing turbo right?
if u are, I dont really would like to make this change this year, want to play at least 5k regular before changing...(and while playing doing what u said trying to improve my game always!)
well yh, but same thing works for regulars i guess, plus it will be easier to 2table and will help u to not fall asleep during games
my goal was to 2table 33s and 55s for a while since ppl make way to many mistakes on this stakes and back to 1table when i move up to 110s/220s (which i dont plan on trying at least for a while)

what i said is what works for me, i only answered here because u had few answers to your op (and i liked your avatar), u have much more experienced ppl here that u can take advantage
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10-18-2010 , 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Deepak
well yh, but same thing works for regulars i guess, plus it will be easier to 2table and will help u to not fall asleep during games
my goal was to 2table 33s and 55s for a while since ppl make way to many mistakes on this stakes and back to 1table when i move up to 110s/220s (which i dont plan on trying at least for a while)

what i said is what works for me, i only answered here because u had few answers to your op (and i liked your avatar), u have much more experienced ppl here that u can take advantage
"i only answered here because u had few answers to your op (and i liked your avatar)"

Dont know if i feel happy for the for the compliment or sad for the few answers hahaah just kidding

About what u said i agree, but in my case i will stay in 50 and 80 regular speed before going up to the (100s/200s), actually sometime i give some shots in the 100...regs dont respect me a lot there, lol but nothing to worry, regs that face me arent that good and usually just play once.
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10-18-2010 , 12:10 AM
I 3 table the 50s and 30s.



looking to be able to 4 table eventually
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10-18-2010 , 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Obey the Odds
I 3 table the 50s and 30s.



looking to be able to 4 table eventually
oh this is interisting, soo how did u start playing 2 tables or more?
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10-18-2010 , 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by FCesario
oh this is interisting, soo how did u start playing 2 tables or more?
just always 2 tabled. Wasn't too difficult. Couldn't imagine one tabling, that'd make me go crazy with boredom.

Though I do one table occasionally when I get into grudge matches with other regs.

As for 3 tabling, sometimes I'll warm myself into that. Like 2 table for a couple of matches, see how I'm playing and if I'm doing well just open up another table.

I did 4 table a couple nights ago and tbh it really wasn't too difficult. I think there's a gap definitely between 2 tabling and 3 tabling but not so much as 3 and 4 tabling.

Though for now I'm going to 3 table, maybe give 4 tabling a shot and see how I do. Ofc the upside is more volume but downside could be lower roi. :/
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10-18-2010 , 04:35 AM
what happened to giving a try?
Its not like you won´t ever be able to go back if it won´t succeed.

edit:
I was talking to OP
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10-18-2010 , 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by AnJo280
what happened to giving a try?
Its not like you won´t ever be able to go back if it won´t succeed.
already did. I don't just open up 4 new tables all at once. usually I have to warm up to that point.
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10-18-2010 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by AnJo280
what happened to giving a try?
Its not like you won´t ever be able to go back if it won´t succeed.

edit:
I was talking to OP
i already gave a try to it...i played more than 800 games 3 tables in 5s/10s in opoker.com but at this level the first level of thinking is enough to win.

sometimes i play 2 at same time cause i wait in 50 and 80 lobby to play the first to appear but happens to people sit me in both before i get out from the other.But playing 50 and 80 at same time is very diferent from playing 3 of 10s at same time, imo the problem is that I am not able to make good reads of the opp and because of this the game goes to higher blinds without extracting good quantity of there chips, soo the luck factor is increased as marginal plays.

Giving some trys is something i do, but should I insist?

thx a lot for all posts soo far have been helping me a lot!
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10-18-2010 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by FCesario
i already gave a try to it...i played more than 800 games 3 tables in 5s/10s in opoker.com but at this level the first level of thinking is enough to win.

sometimes i play 2 at same time cause i wait in 50 and 80 lobby to play the first to appear but happens to people sit me in both before i get out from the other.But playing 50 and 80 at same time is very diferent from playing 3 of 10s at same time, imo the problem is that I am not able to make good reads of the opp and because of this the game goes to higher blinds without extracting good quantity of there chips, soo the luck factor is increased as marginal plays.

Giving some trys is something i do, but should I insist?

thx a lot for all posts soo far have been helping me a lot!
Brasil in the HOUUUUUUUUUSEEE!!!
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10-18-2010 , 06:23 PM
GoGo Brazil!
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10-18-2010 , 08:02 PM
In the current heads up climate, where waiting times are longer and longer, 2 tabling or 3tabling is at a premium. You almost have to learn to do it! I know its hard, personally it took me forever to get used to it, but you will get good at it. Try two tabling for a while and see how it goes
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10-18-2010 , 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Brilliant27
In the current heads up climate, where waiting times are longer and longer, 2 tabling or 3tabling is at a premium. You almost have to learn to do it! I know its hard, personally it took me forever to get used to it, but you will get good at it. Try two tabling for a while and see how it goes
This.

And c'mon Felipe, I tell you every single day to play more tables... I think you have to give it a try. Try for a week or something, and see how that works out for you. I can sweat you or something if you'd like.
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