$1 SPIN, QJo limp, minraise or open shove?
08-03-2016
, 08:45 PM
PokerStars - $0.92+$0.08|20/40 NL (3 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BB: 12.1 BB (VPIP: 52.00, PFR: 21.74, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)
Hero (SB): 25.4 BB
Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q
J
Hero
Against a fairlly agressive oponent what would be better here? Minraise, limp or shove. And if u limp or minraise are u folding to a 3bet/ISO shove right?
If suited is clear shove right?
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BB: 12.1 BB (VPIP: 52.00, PFR: 21.74, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)
Hero (SB): 25.4 BB
Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q
J Hero
Against a fairlly agressive oponent what would be better here? Minraise, limp or shove. And if u limp or minraise are u folding to a 3bet/ISO shove right?
If suited is clear shove right?
08-06-2016
, 12:22 PM
08-06-2016
, 01:20 PM
readless yeah it is. Maybe those players suck post or their villains are great post? Antes make the "effective" effective stacks lower so that also makes it a shove earlier.
win-rate maxing also makes minr/fold better then it should be (compared to minr/call) and makes open shove worse then it should be. Maybe without win-rate maxing open-shove can be better then minr/fold, but 12bb still really deep to open shove it.
But really just limp it
win-rate maxing also makes minr/fold better then it should be (compared to minr/call) and makes open shove worse then it should be. Maybe without win-rate maxing open-shove can be better then minr/fold, but 12bb still really deep to open shove it.
But really just limp it
08-06-2016
, 01:31 PM
yeah pretty much useless other than as extremely general indicators when compared to other players with same samples (though even then this will vary due to specific outcomes a ton because it's averaged over so many different situations).
as for second question, you don't need as much equity to call a shove after min-raising then after limping
Plus Iso shove ranges have more Kx so the fact they're wider isn't all that good.
as for second question, you don't need as much equity to call a shove after min-raising then after limping
Plus Iso shove ranges have more Kx so the fact they're wider isn't all that good.
08-06-2016
, 01:58 PM
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yeah pretty much useless other than as extremely general indicators when compared to other players with same samples (though even then this will vary due to specific outcomes a ton because it's averaged over so many different situations).
as for second question, you don't need as much equity to call a shove after min-raising then after limping Plus Iso shove ranges have more Kx so the fact they're wider isn't all that good.
as for second question, you don't need as much equity to call a shove after min-raising then after limping
Plus Iso shove ranges have more Kx so the fact they're wider isn't all that good.
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08-07-2016
, 01:20 PM
Sounds about right can get away with a bit shallower too depending on villain and your post-flop play. Obv turns into limp/call shove shallower.
can get away with a bit shallower too depending on villain and your post-flop play. Obv turns into limp/call shove shallower.