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Old 07-06-2012, 02:16 PM   #101
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Yeah not super happy about this to be honest as seems like a pretty fundamental thing to make sure you have access to buy ins before leaving.

Also package is much more stable with a lot more games and missing the ME is bad, 1.25 MU is very high without ME and a full package.

Today is Friday and still no word.
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Old 07-06-2012, 02:59 PM   #102
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Ditto not rec the PM mentioned.
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Old 07-06-2012, 09:41 PM   #103
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david, the best thing you can do, no matter what the situation is, is to be open and keep backers in the loop as to when we can expect payment (even if it will be a while). especially if you want to sell packages in the future
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Old 07-06-2012, 09:47 PM   #104
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on the optimistic side, david did say he was traveling to new york, so its possible he just hasn't had internet access while traveling, and I know he doesn't have a cell phone with him.
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Old 07-06-2012, 10:32 PM   #105
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welp just saw this now, had sent a couple pms about meeting up for the main etc. glad i didn't pay first week of june like he initially wanted (wasn't anything to do with him, just didn't want to send money that early...seems like for a good reason)
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Old 07-07-2012, 07:02 AM   #106
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I can confirm that he had someone pay me 80%~ what is owed to me in refund.
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Old 07-07-2012, 01:31 PM   #107
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I can confirm that he had someone pay me 80%~ what is owed to me in refund.
Unfortunately he doesn't seem to have paid or contacted anyone else.

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on the optimistic side, david did say he was traveling to new york, so its possible he just hasn't had internet access while traveling, and I know he doesn't have a cell phone with him.
Well, he posted to Twitter from Philly on the 4th, so I don't think that's the case. If you do know him, I suggest you get him to check into the thread and inform his investors.

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Old 07-07-2012, 04:12 PM   #108
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Unfortunately he doesn't seem to have paid or contacted anyone else.



Well, he posted to Twitter from Philly on the 4th, so I don't think that's the case. If you do know him, I suggest you get him to check into the thread and inform his investors.

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I don't
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Old 07-07-2012, 07:13 PM   #109
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Marketplace mods are aware of this.
There is no sign that he has been on-site since July 4.
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Old 07-09-2012, 08:07 AM   #110
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Hi guys,

Sorry about the absence over the last 5 days or so. Pretty hectic last week; I've been traveling up and down the East coast and haven't been online until today.

I fly back to the UK on 29th July and will make sure everyone is paid either on the 30th or 31st of July at the latest.

I'll post a comprehensive list of everyone who bought shares and their exact refunds/share of cashes.

-David
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Old 07-09-2012, 08:50 AM   #111
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Full Package

Name & Refund Amount($)

Theding87 - 2,520
Schundler - 700
TimeStone - 700
Scusi - 875
Xdanielx - 350
Pvt Investor (Ritchie) - 700
Wd1head - 700
Taikogod - 700
Almito - 175
Tamas6 - 350
Beastjr - 700
Sergisergi - 700
Pvt Investor (Del) - 350
Chase poker - 175
Pvt Investor (Martin) - 525
Pvt Investor (Dean) - 525
The Sasquatch - 350
Bminty - 625
BackingDonk - 312.50
Luckyernio7 - 312.50
Pvt Investor (Ryan) - 1,176
3l3ftf33t - 1,540


The above is purely refunds however everyone apart from Bminty, BackingDonk and Luckyernio are also due a share in the #21 cash.

I sold a some action separately to this main package but played almost all of those events. However there are a couple of people that invested separately in an event or two that I missed. I will PM those people but if they have any issues they are welcome to also post here.

If anyone has any issues with the above numbers or anything else please either post here or PM me. I have a US phone at last so I should be able to be online and get back to everyone in a timely manner.


-David
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Old 07-09-2012, 09:21 AM   #112
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Can you detail exactly which events you are refunding for? I'm getting a different amount.

-BD
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Old 07-09-2012, 10:20 AM   #113
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Can you detail exactly which events you are refunding for? I'm getting a different amount.

-BD

Buyins missed = $28,000

minus $3,000 (#23) of which you are not eligible

= 25,000 * 1.25(MU) * 1%(your share) = $312.50


Tried, but couldn't pm you /\

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Old 07-09-2012, 10:31 AM   #114
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  1. Sat, Jun 2nd - Event #9A: No-Limit Hold'em Re-entry $1,500 (won't be re-entering)
  2. Wed, Jun 6th - Event #14: No-Limit Hold'em Shootout $1,500
  3. Thu, Jun 7th - Event #16: No-Limit Hold'em / Six Handed $1,500
  4. Sun, Jun 10th - Event #21: No-Limit Hold'em $1,000
  5. Mon, Jun 11th - Event #23: No-Limit Hold'em / Six Handed $3,000
  6. Thu, Jun 14th - Event #28: No-Limit Hold'em / Four Handed $2,500
  7. Sat, Jun 16th - Event #31: No-Limit Hold'em $1,500
  8. Sun, Jun 17th - Event #33: No-Limit Hold'em $1,000
  9. Tue, Jun 19th - Event #36: No-Limit Hold'em Shootout (2,000 player max) $3,000
  10. Wed, Jun 20th - Event #38: No-Limit Hold'em $1,500
  11. Fri, Jun 22nd - Event #41: No-Limit Hold'em $3,000
  12. Sat, Jun 23rd - Event #43: No-Limit Hold'em $1,500
  13. Sun, Jun 24th - Event #44: No-Limit Hold'em $1,000
  14. Mon, Jun 25th - Event #46: No-Limit Hold'em $2,500
  15. Wed, Jun 27th - Event #49: Ante Only No-Limit Hold'em $1,500
  16. Thu, Jun 28th - Event #50: No-Limit Hold'em $5,000
  17. Sat, Jun 30th - Event #53: No-Limit Hold'em $1,500
  18. Sun, Jul 1st - Event #54: No-Limit Hold'em $1,000
  19. Mon, Jul 2nd - Event #56: No-Limit Hold'em $1,500
  20. Wed, Jul 4th - Event #59A: No-Limit Hold'em $1,000
  21. Mon, Jul 9th - Event #61C: No-Limit Hold'em Main Event $10,000
OK I show you playing in events 9, 14, 16, 21, 28, 31, 33, 41, 43, 49.

You missed 23, 36, 38, 44, 46, 50, 53, 54, 56, 59, 61

This missed events total $31,000, but I only had from 28 on so $28,000 missed. Multiplied by 1.25 = $35,000 so my refund should be $350. Happy to have my math checked/facts corrected as there is a lot of detail here.

-BD
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Old 07-09-2012, 11:32 AM   #115
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what about my 1% of main event refund?
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Old 07-10-2012, 04:53 AM   #116
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OK I show you playing in events 9, 14, 16, 21, 28, 31, 33, 41, 43, 49.

You missed 23, 36, 38, 44, 46, 50, 53, 54, 56, 59, 61

This missed events total $31,000, but I only had from 28 on so $28,000 missed. Multiplied by 1.25 = $35,000 so my refund should be $350. Happy to have my math checked/facts corrected as there is a lot of detail here.

-BD
If this is true then the other numbers are a bit off too?
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Old 07-10-2012, 06:45 AM   #117
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Can you just show which events you played and which you missed with buy ins for each event will be simplest and we can all see if we have the same numbers.
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Old 07-10-2012, 07:37 AM   #118
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Really feel OP should address the mark up for the events played. I doubt people would have snapped 1.25 for what ended up being played as great as hindsight is I wouldn't have invested knowing the amount that'd be skipped and then OP would be on holiday till the end of the month.
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Old 07-10-2012, 09:51 AM   #119
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Something must be done now cant let this going on find the fund to pay out please
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Old 07-10-2012, 10:39 AM   #120
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Really feel OP should address the mark up for the events played. I doubt people would have snapped 1.25 for what ended up being played as great as hindsight is I wouldn't have invested knowing the amount that'd be skipped and then OP would be on holiday till the end of the month.
Kinda gets worse than that. OP also sold this package as mini packages with less mark up and as individual events. Buying the same events as mini packages would have yielded an overall MU of approximately 1.22.

In addition, %s in individual events were also sold, at times putting OP on a literal freeroll (e.g. Event 31: 46% sold in main package, 2.5% sold as mini-package, 30% sold in individual event = 78.5% meaning OP had to put up around $28 for 21.5% of himself).

I really question where all the money has gone and why it's OK to take a month to pay people back. Arrangements can be made.

-BD
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Old 07-10-2012, 06:35 PM   #121
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could u plz get someone u know on 2p2 get in here and confirm your travel-plans?

had 1% of the main fwiw

hope this gets solved acceptable for everyone...
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Old 07-11-2012, 01:52 AM   #122
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Old 07-11-2012, 04:01 AM   #123
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I wouldn't have bought if you didnt have Main event and few other tournaments that you missed in the package.

I accept the transfer for what you think is correct amount on Stars (fwiw, I don't think it is what you have there on last post). You can have your friend to log in from UK and send it right about now.

I don't accept this kind of money loaning.
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Old 07-11-2012, 02:28 PM   #124
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Can you just show which events you played and which you missed with buy ins for each event will be simplest and we can all see if we have the same numbers.
This.

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Really feel OP should address the mark up for the events played. I doubt people would have snapped 1.25 for what ended up being played as great as hindsight is I wouldn't have invested knowing the amount that'd be skipped and then OP would be on holiday till the end of the month.
I agree with you, but it's hard to deal with IMO - any suggestions?

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Kinda gets worse than that. OP also sold this package as mini packages with less mark up and as individual events. Buying the same events as mini packages would have yielded an overall MU of approximately 1.22.
Yeah if this true then numbers have to be adjusted slightly.



Not sure how much this affects it, but obv ME and some other events would have had higher markup than the events played. Anyway, just voicing my concerns.
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Old 07-12-2012, 07:29 PM   #125
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wish David would log into 2p2.. hoping I hear again before he leaves AC because it would make it a lot easier for me
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