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Old 10-14-2012, 10:41 AM   #701
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Re: Scarer's WSOP 2012 Package - $18k+ UNPAID TO BACKERS - *Thursday payments reported*

i would assume he isnt playing on his own money on stars atm. he most likely has a backer.


if he would just be more open and honest, i am sure it would make people feel better. but, he is a huge idiot, so that will never happen.


glad he is making payments though
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Old 10-15-2012, 03:40 AM   #702
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he was doing pretty well in $3.30 rebuy as well not sure where he finished in that
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Old 10-15-2012, 07:51 AM   #703
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Received thanks (Ritchie)
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Old 10-15-2012, 02:14 PM   #704
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Got mine eventually, no sign of the "interest" or "bonus" he once mentioned tho
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Old 10-16-2012, 07:39 AM   #705
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I have been friends with scarer over the past 5 years or so . I have had a lot to to with him poker wise and have honestly never had a single problem whilst dealing with him. SO whatever happened I am glad it is all sorted now

he sent back to me a few days ago...ty
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:40 AM   #706
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finally PAID
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:32 AM   #707
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I have been friends with scarer over the past 5 years or so . I have had a lot to to with him poker wise and have honestly never had a single problem whilst dealing with him. SO whatever happened I am glad it is all sorted now

he sent back to me a few days ago...ty
lol @ ty

thank god maybe (if you believe in that stuff) but thanking david for only stealing your money for a few months and then luckboxing into paying back is delusional at best
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Old 10-16-2012, 02:52 PM   #708
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Old 10-16-2012, 05:32 PM   #709
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Re: Scarer's WSOP 2012 Package - $18k+ UNPAID TO BACKERS - *Thursday payments reported*

You werent outing this guy for being a piece of **** because you thought it might delay/end payments. Now that everyone is paid you should probably make it known that no one should do business with him again.
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Old 10-16-2012, 06:21 PM   #710
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Re: Scarer's WSOP 2012 Package - $18k+ UNPAID TO BACKERS - *Thursday payments reported*

Everyone has been paid except Dahjinerat 2.0 who paid with cash. PM has been sent to organize payment method.

I owe the investors an explanation

Initially I’d like to say that I had always intended to pay everyone from the day I played my last WSOP event. During the previous four months I've been given the run around by a so called friend who was giving me endless promises and deadlines on a large amount of money that I had loaned him at the start of the WSOP (some of which was backers money). Obviously, wrongly, I passed those deadlines onto my investors which after the second or third delay started to become worrying and after that farcical. I've been trying to sort this out as soon as I can and in the end have had to sell my house to free up some money. I obviously didn't want to do this initially and gave my 'friend' time and gave you guys excuses or remained dark for a time.

I have to apologize to investors for the various excuses that I used to delay payment (although the mugging was true) but I never thought that it would drag on so long. I also had a conflict when it came to telling the entire 2+2 community the situation as my friend is also a poker player, although not well known. Over the first couple of months of this situation we were still friends and obviously that would have been put in jeopardy. I still have no intention of mentioning his name here as I’ve experienced first hand the verbal abuse and threats that a small amount of the poker community seem to think is warranted or acceptable.

Even though I had a cast iron promise to repay me within a week and every reason to believe the person involved I obviously regret loaning out this money and it was a major mistake.

For those that know me well knew that there was never any danger of people not receiving back their investment. Obviously selling action to a large amount of people, most of whom I don’t know well or at all is a totally different proposition. I’ve handled the communication badly, especially after I cut the package short.

I apologize for all the hassle and uncertainty I’ve caused you guys as investors. As I mentioned before I will try and do something for you guys in the shape of free action in MTT(s) in future after I get back on my feet.

As far as I’m concerned the matter is closed now and I won’t be revisiting the topic for further discussion.

If any of the investors need to clear anything up or just want to have a chat over skype then please PM me.
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Old 10-16-2012, 06:48 PM   #711
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Lol, just pathetic. Why the hell would you have lent money to a friend with the backers money?? I still think your story is a big lie but I guess nobody will ever know, nor does it matter now. I just hope the mods NEVER let you have marketplace privaledges again
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Old 10-16-2012, 07:36 PM   #712
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some of which was backers money
Oh just some? You missed half of the tournamenst, including $10k buyin Main event. How much did you actually loan to your "so called friend"?

Have to say it's an incredible story, didn't expect anything less.
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:07 PM   #713
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seems like he learned doing business from mr. bittar and mr. lederer himself haha
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:18 PM   #714
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How somebody can be so stupid to loan out money using backing funds is beyond me. Glad everyone got paid but def gotta make sure this dolt never sells action publicly again.
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Old 10-16-2012, 10:51 PM   #715
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Lol @ "mugging did happen". I'd lay odds that he couldn't provide a police report. You are am imbecile op
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Old 10-17-2012, 07:34 AM   #716
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[...] as I’ve experienced first hand the verbal abuse and threats that a small amount of the poker community seem to think is warranted or acceptable.
Yeah, you definitely are the victim here
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Old 10-17-2012, 07:44 AM   #717
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Pls ban from 2p2
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Old 10-17-2012, 08:07 AM   #718
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I still have no intention of mentioning his name here as I’ve experienced first hand the verbal abuse and threats that a small amount of the poker community seem to think is warranted or acceptable.

As far as I’m concerned the matter is closed now and I won’t be revisiting the topic for further discussion.
You have to be leveling?? Absolutely despicable.
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:36 AM   #719
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you lent out so much money that its default caused you to sell your house?
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:59 AM   #720
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Story seems more bs then the "mugging".
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Old 10-17-2012, 10:52 AM   #721
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Re: Scarer's WSOP 2012 Package - $18k+ UNPAID TO BACKERS - *Thursday payments reported*

still not handling it well, if i did all this i would be more than happy to bring all my proves to the community and would feel the need to really answer all the questions so that somebody, someday maybe regain trust in me, this way you are done for sure, if you hadled it in a diff way you would probably still have chance to regain yourself in the community
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:30 PM   #722
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Very happy to see this, although he did pay his investors back (as he should, before the legal system caught up with him) there is no way he can be trusted on the forums given the way he conducted himself ITT.
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Old 10-18-2012, 08:13 AM   #723
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Everyone has been paid except Dahjinerat 2.0 who paid with cash. PM has been sent to organize payment method.
I hope this was completed before Scarer was banned?
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Old 10-18-2012, 11:29 AM   #724
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I hope this was completed before Scarer was banned?
I'm sure it was..
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Old 10-18-2012, 12:20 PM   #725
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I have PMed Dahjinerat 2.0 for confirmation.
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