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Old 09-05-2012, 12:20 AM   #551
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re: Scarer's WSOP 2012 Package - $18k+ UNPAID TO BACKERS - *Thursday payments reported*

Was talking to him a couple of days ago in the chat of the Big 55, which he was playing.
I told him to communicate with us and that he is a scum for playing with our money, without talking to us.
He then said I should calm down and that he will contact me on 2+2.

A couple of hours later he finally cleared up the whole situation and got into contact with me



thanks scarer for that great message
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Old 09-05-2012, 01:24 AM   #552
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The scumbag paid me back on Party yesterday.

It noticed a pattern of him replying to me/this thread after i 1) asked for a picture of him and then 2) announced i was going to the police.

His lack of communication has been horrible and anyone who ever deals with him again must be made aware of this ( in any form not just poker related).

I only invest 4-5 k every series for the sweat etc and after this i am never investing anything on here again too much of a ball ache.

Good job trashing the market place scumbag.

Hope everyone gets paid out.
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Old 09-05-2012, 02:06 AM   #553
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The scumbag paid me back on Party yesterday.

It noticed a pattern of him replying to me/this thread after i 1) asked for a picture of him and then 2) announced i was going to the police.

His lack of communication has been horrible and anyone who ever deals with him again must be made aware of this ( in any form not just poker related).

I only invest 4-5 k every series for the sweat etc and after this i am never investing anything on here again too much of a ball ache.

Good job trashing the market place scumbag.

Hope everyone gets paid out.
Its unfortunate a scum bag like this will make you not want to invest in the marketplace. Remember, for every 1 stake/transfer that goes wrong, theres 1000s of transactions that go off without any issues whatsoever.
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Old 09-05-2012, 06:03 AM   #554
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re: Scarer's WSOP 2012 Package - $18k+ UNPAID TO BACKERS - *Thursday payments reported*

This is the first time I've checked in on 2+2 since Chloe's post yesterday.

I have been playing a few Stars MTT's with what FPP's I had. I've used the cashes to pay a few people back.

I'm owed a large amount of money which I've been expecting this entire time but I've been assured I will have very soon. I had no intention of even mentioning this but it appears I can stay silent no longer on that fact. For now I'm not going to go into any details about this presuming that I receive the funds soon.

I'll continue to pay off what I can until I receive this money. I'm cash poor right now but I do have assets worth a decent amount that would take a little time to liquidize but which I'll do if I can't get this resolved soon.

Scusi: I tried to open dialogue with you immediately after you were abusing and threatening me in the Stars chat. Obviously you weren't online at the time.

This is laughable:

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It noticed a pattern of him replying to me/this thread after i 1) asked for a picture of him and then 2) announced i was going to the police.
To the rest of you guys who had action: The majority have been very reasonable and patient. If you want to speak to me over skype or msn messenger then pm me on 2p2.
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Old 09-05-2012, 07:28 AM   #555
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god you are such a ****ing scumbag
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Old 09-05-2012, 07:41 AM   #556
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god you are such a ****ing scumbag
And your extremely brave sitting behind your computer calling people names. I'd have expected Pokerstars Team Pro comments to be more constructive.
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Old 09-05-2012, 07:47 AM   #557
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How about you send money back from the funds that were sent to you on Pokerstars? You know, the funds that you were unable to cashout when you got your account locked?
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Old 09-05-2012, 07:53 AM   #558
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And your extremely brave sitting behind your computer calling people names. I'd have expected Pokerstars Team Pro comments to be more constructive.
If I may: You're extremely brave sitting behind your computer stealing peoples money, lying and acting like a moron.
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Old 09-05-2012, 07:55 AM   #559
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Just received payment from Scarer on Stars.
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Old 09-05-2012, 07:58 AM   #560
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560 posts and still no truth ITT. This is amazing.
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Old 09-05-2012, 08:07 AM   #561
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People paid:

Almito
ChasePoker
Tamas6
xDanielx
Beastjr
Chiefsfan17
358870
Icantcookit
Tourbound68

Everyone else has still to receive payment.

I overpaid Almito and Chasepoker by about $100. It was a mistake but obviously I'd like them to keep it as some form of compensation. Once everyone is paid I'll look into compensating everyone else.
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Old 09-05-2012, 08:36 AM   #562
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People paid:

Almito
ChasePoker
Tamas6
xDanielx
Beastjr
Chiefsfan17
358870
Icantcookit
Tourbound68

Everyone else has still to receive payment.

I overpaid Almito and Chasepoker by about $100. It was a mistake but obviously I'd like them to keep it as some form of compensation. Once everyone is paid I'll look into compensating everyone else.
Good to see you are making things right. Just keep posting here, and people will relax a little more. Good luck in the wcoop, hopefully you can take one down and pay all back and put this behind you. GL everyone
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Old 09-05-2012, 08:58 AM   #563
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And your extremely brave sitting behind your computer calling people names. I'd have expected Pokerstars Team Pro comments to be more constructive.
You do realise that you have stolen money off people that they paid you to play a poker tournament and have since lied to investors and ignored all communications with you ?

Paying it back is not something that we should be grateful for it is something that you should have done 2 months ago when you gained money off people on false pretenses.

And i don't want your extra $100 tell me who to send it to and i will pay off some of your debt if you pay everyone off and then you decide you want to compensate people then you send it me( lol, just lol ).

People might think i am ******ed for not just keeping the money but i dont give a f*** i have morals and if you had any you might be more humble and honest with people, like we have all told you from the start. Everyone makes mistakes and people are normally forgiving but not when you can't begin to even appear to be sorry.

I hope you can see what i am saying and i will have no problem saying this to your face if you ever show it again in a live setting.
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Old 09-05-2012, 09:10 AM   #564
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re: Scarer's WSOP 2012 Package - $18k+ UNPAID TO BACKERS - *Thursday payments reported*

Im not staking David atm nor do I know of anyone involved with #teamboganonline staking him but Id guess that if he was playing he has arranged a stake by a friend etc, its good to see he is paying people back and I hope he comes good on all of this.
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Old 09-05-2012, 11:42 AM   #565
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once again i'm very patient mostly due it's not an urgent matter for me but what you cannot do and what pisses me off pretty badly is that you act like it's not your fault and all the lies.

you wrote like 3pm's that the money is coming next days, tomoro, etc.

if you are almost cash bust i would appreciate to hear the true story ala: "I'm sorry, I don't have the money atm but people owe me and I pay back as soon as I can" instead of "the money is going out latest tomoro"

seems like you made some massive miscalculations in this whole thing but at least u seem to be willing to really pay everything back which is a good thing...

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Old 09-05-2012, 12:22 PM   #566
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Yeah, seems like he is trying to make amends, i wish him well.
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Old 09-05-2012, 01:01 PM   #567
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Great to see David post in the thread (thanks for the taking the time!) and admitting that you are in fact cash poor.

But why the heck have you not explained WHY you are cash poor? Everyone who has invested in you, regardless on if you have paid them back, deserves to know what you spent there money.
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Old 09-05-2012, 02:18 PM   #568
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You guys all should like a month ago count this money as lost and start being as disrespectful towards Scarer and he's been towards all of you so far (and it doesn't seem to change). I've had very similar situation in the past with ridiculous excuses and reasoning for why I'm not getting my money back and villain in my story had also similar tone towards me which is just outrageous. Everything ended in my case after two years and I'm taught to never give my money even to people that I've known for years (except for very closest ones). Although I had to give up on interest (that he offered himself) and extra payments that villain made in the past because of his ships (that were his decisions as well).

So, Scarer, I must say that you're extremely lucky that you've been treated so nicely by everyone here (which is a bit shocking to me). I don't think your bones would be still intact in every other similar scenario. So, good luck with avoiding consequence even further. People like you never change.
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Old 09-05-2012, 04:20 PM   #569
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Regardless of who owes you money, what has happened to you in America or not and whatever other life struggles you have had, the way you have represented yourself in this thread and treated the members of the MP/investors is honestly disgraceful.
Also i see you responded to mement when he gave you some stick, its a pity he caught your attention through all the hundreds of posts ITT. That speaks volume's David - your a coward.
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:37 PM   #570
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And your extremely brave sitting behind your computer calling people names. I'd have expected Pokerstars Team Pro comments to be more constructive.
lololololoololololol


you really are an idiot. **** you

Last edited by Zima421; 09-05-2012 at 05:38 PM. Reason: that constructive enough for you?
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:46 PM   #571
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Scarer, please get someone reputable to vouch for you being owed an amount sufficient enough to cover this outstanding debt and that this owed debt is expected to be resolved shortly. If you can't, I suggest you convert your FPP's into cash in a much less high variance proposition than playing WCOOP MTTs. I'm not sure what PS offers these days since I haven't been on the site since BF, but they used to offer FPP hyper turbo 6-max SNGs to the $11 Sunday MTT. You may even be able to just directly buy cash bonuses for FPPs depending on your VIP level (I think). Do one of those and then make payments to EVERYONE that you owe (%'s of what they are owed).

Then compile a complete debt list and work out a payment plan. I'm sure someone will take a chance and back you if you offer them a slightly better deal than normal. Use profits from this to pay people back.

Under no circumstances should you be using FPPs to play WCOOP MTTs unless you are 100% sure (and can prove it to your investors) that this amount owed to you is to be paid back in the next few days. FPPs appear to be one of the only assets you have at this point and should not be gambled away. You need to convert these to cash as quickly as possible and make more payments.
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Old 09-05-2012, 07:01 PM   #572
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tbh, the amount "owed" seems like a way to keep people off his back as he tries to make enough money and small payments to appease ppl. I'd be pretty shocked if someone came in and said they actually did owe him money

loool @ his comments to Mickey. The guy pretends everything is hunky-dory after stealing money (going as far as to ignore this thread for days/weeks at a time) and then acts as if it's out of line for being called a scumbag? Grow the **** up and pay ppl back.
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Old 09-05-2012, 08:50 PM   #573
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I would question a stars pro who didn't think OP was a scumbag
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Old 09-06-2012, 10:10 AM   #574
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Received my money from Scarer.
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Old 09-06-2012, 08:27 PM   #575
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Cleaned up the derail, and I'll just reply to the one person who reported a post and asked why a certain member was allowed to post in the marketplace. Approval is only required to start threads, not to post in existing threads or send PMs. Of course there are circumstances where someone has scammed and never paid back or done something else that requires harsher punishment; in those cases, the poster is banned. We didn't feel the poster in question had reached that point. Also keep in mind that in some cases we don't ban as we'd prefer to know who the person is rather than ban them and they start a new account - not saying that did or didn't come into play here. If anyone wants to discuss these policies in general, or the poster specifically, there are a couple stickies in the staking forums that would be more appropriate. If you post in one of those threads and would like a mod response and haven't got one, feel free to report the post.

Now back to our regularly scheduled thread. OP, keep the payments up, and FFS if you're going to post ITT, do you think you could consider a little less condescension and a little more contrition? Actually, a lot less and a lot more would be in order, but a little would be a good start.
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