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Old 08-14-2012, 05:32 PM   #351
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re: Scarer's WSOP 2012 Package - $18k+ UNPAID TO BACKERS - *Thursday payments reported*

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How are non of the investors posting anything in the thread?


are you scared you wont get paid (or is scarer threatening to not pay if you post?)
received 2 pms from him (think its against the rules to post pms, if so plz delete, think an exception can be made here):

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Repayment for WSOP backing
Hi mate,

Sorry you haven't heard from me over these last few weeks. I'm getting ready to transfer your cash back to you.

I need you to confirm your preferred the method of payment, eg Pokerstars, Party Poker, Moneybookers etc

and

Poker screen name or moneybookers details.


At the moment my Stars account that holds the backing money plus a lot of my money is frozen but I'm in the process of getting it unlocked. If all goes well I should be able to transfer the cash tomorrow. Worst case scenario is it doesn't happen until the end of next week.

It appears over the last few weeks while I've had almost no access to internet the main topic has turned into a bit of a witch hunt. So I'll only be posting on there to confirm this PM and then again when everyone has been paid.

Once I've paid everyone I intend to do something just to say sorry for the delayed payment and missing events. It will entail giving out action for one or a few of my Sunday tournament grinds or giving action out for one or more live events.

Sorry for the inconvenience bud and thanks for your patience.

-David
after i respond w my stars sn:

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Will ship asap and will keep you updated. Thanks
(date of 2nd pm: 08-09-2012, 03:44 PM)

needless to say i havent received anything yet

havent kept up w the thread in a while, wrote the money off a long time ago

u better solve this David or im pretty sure ull end up on every regs slowroll list (including mine) + may never show up at a livetourney ever again...
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Old 08-14-2012, 07:58 PM   #352
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thanks for posting mort.
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Old 08-14-2012, 08:47 PM   #353
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since we're posting PMs

yesterday's update from scarer

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Still trying to sort this out with Stars. They said that their security dept need a little more time to go through all the details and my account will remain locked until that has happened.

I'm emailing them multiple times a day at the moment so I hope to have it sorted soon but they have given me no time frame, except to say that it shouldn't take long...

Should Stars take far too long in sorting this out I have some friends who are able to pay down the balance owed to all players until I can liquidate one of my assets. So don't worry about not being paid.

I'll give you another update on Tuesday, providing that i haven't transferred by then.

-David
it's wednesday UK time
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Old 08-14-2012, 09:20 PM   #354
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His account isnt locked.


why does he keep saying that?

He should just post some emails from stars to show its actually locked.
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Old 08-14-2012, 09:22 PM   #355
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If I have followed this thread correctly, he is able to receive transfers, which according to Stars means his account is not locked, correct?

So he lost all the investors money that he did not use on buy ins on his east coast gambling trip. Or am I reading this thread wrong?
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Old 08-14-2012, 09:44 PM   #356
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At least post your lies ITT you cowardly dolt.
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Old 08-14-2012, 09:48 PM   #357
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At least post your lies ITT you cowardly dolt.
i think he learned quickly how that approach wasn't the best so he's diversifying his approach!

good luck to all investors.

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Old 08-14-2012, 10:34 PM   #358
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The locked account thing doesnt seem to add up but I doubt he would have paid me back unless he was planning on paying everyone.
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Old 08-14-2012, 11:17 PM   #359
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Just read the whole of the thread and it is pretty dam disgraceful. The saddest part is that 99% of people on here would never dream of handling a package this bad but will no doubt make it harder for us all to sell packages in the future.It is pretty obvious the original investor has lost the money and im sure the investors would prefer some honesty regarding this. Even if you agree to pay back small sums over a long period of time atleast they will respect you for your honesty.

On a side note I had a package I put up at the early part of the year where i could only play 1 of the events and resheduled to play some alternative events the following month but was unable to due to some family issues. As a gesture of good will I refunded the full package including the 320 euro game i played and also offered them mark up free for my wsop main event package.Im not saying you should refund all the events you have played but if you are genuine and your having one disaster after another I would atleast refund the full mark up on the games you did play.

Anyway good luck to the investors and hope this gets resolved amicable.
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Old 08-14-2012, 11:18 PM   #360
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On a side note i have often had people transfer me funds from stars and i have always been able to withdraw immediately.
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Old 08-15-2012, 01:07 AM   #361
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If I have followed this thread correctly, he is able to receive transfers, which according to Stars means his account is not locked, correct?

So he lost all the investors money that he did not use on buy ins on his east coast gambling trip. Or am I reading this thread wrong?
He didnt lose the investors money mate,he got mugged at knife and gunpoint.
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Old 08-15-2012, 01:47 AM   #362
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That is what he said without providing any proof. He also said he did not have the money for the buy ins, but he had the money for an east coast gambling vacation. He said his stars account is locked, but it appears it is not. Surely you can see why people would doubt his claim of being mugged.
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Old 08-15-2012, 03:05 AM   #363
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That is what he said without providing any proof. He also said he did not have the money for the buy ins, but he had the money for an east coast gambling vacation. He said his stars account is locked, but it appears it is not. Surely you can see why people would doubt his claim of being mugged.
I think you got levelled..

As a non investor, I have not wanted to comment, but, as a recreational player who peruses the staking threads just to see whats going on mainly, I am shocked at how poorly Scarer has handled this. Firstly, skipping a ton of events and not changing the MU and then the seemingly endless stream of lies that have poured from him since. I too, cannot believe this hasn't blown up more than it has - he's been lucky so far in that respect.

To all investors, I hope you get the truth sooner rather than later.
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Old 08-15-2012, 06:50 AM   #364
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in before he rolls up at ukipt newcastle next month with investors still un paid
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Old 08-15-2012, 06:54 AM   #365
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in before he rolls up at ukipt newcastle next month with investors still un paid
You reckon he will have the bollox to play ukipt?

He will end up getting a slap if its still unsettled.

Just cringe hard at all the lies, the account aint frozen as others have proved in this thread.

Live poker is over for him IMO

complete car crash of a reputation, joke.
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Old 08-15-2012, 07:01 AM   #366
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You reckon he will have the bollox to play ukipt?

He will end up getting a slap if its still unsettled.

Just cringe hard at all the lies, the account aint frozen as others have proved in this thread.

Live poker is over for him IMO

complete car crash of a reputation, joke.
There are numerous instances of people f***king up in poker but still being seen playing the live circuit.
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Old 08-15-2012, 08:49 AM   #367
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You reckon he will have the bollox to play ukipt?

He will end up getting a slap if its still unsettled.

Just cringe hard at all the lies, the account aint frozen as others have proved in this thread.

Live poker is over for him IMO

complete car crash of a reputation, joke.
Calm down Tyson.. internet hard man at its finest..

Didnt u see the emails stars has sent him? he cant send money from his account... hes PM'd all of you to tell you the script.. not much else he can do til stars sort it. If he hadnt then id understand peoples concerns.. but you have seen the email *awaits the 'thats a fake email posts'*.
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Old 08-15-2012, 08:50 AM   #368
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There are numerous instances of people f***king up in poker but still being seen playing the live circuit.
There is ****ing up, and there is this.

Different kettle of fish imo

Anyway none of my business really.
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Old 08-15-2012, 08:55 AM   #369
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Calm down Tyson.. internet hard man at its finest..

Didnt u see the emails stars has sent him? he cant send money from his account... hes PM'd all of you to tell you the script.. not much else he can do til stars sort it. If he hadnt then id understand peoples concerns.. but you have seen the email *awaits the 'thats a fake email posts'*.
Why cant he send money from his account? money can be sent to him so his account is not frozen or blocked or whatever you say it is.

doesnt matter if it is frozen he should have been updating in general. Not you
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Old 08-15-2012, 09:25 AM   #370
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re: Scarer's WSOP 2012 Package - $18k+ UNPAID TO BACKERS - *Thursday payments reported*

Hello,

PokerStars is not a party to this staking arrangement, and consequently, we will not be able to become involved in this dispute.

However, it has come to the attention of PokerStars that there have been claims that we have prevented the settlement of this staking deal.

Those claims are false. There is no impediment to the player from making any such real money transfers (subject to our normal rules regarding real money transfers).

Sincerely,

Michael J
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Old 08-15-2012, 09:29 AM   #371
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Calm down Tyson.. internet hard man at its finest..

Didnt u see the emails stars has sent him? he cant send money from his account... hes PM'd all of you to tell you the script.. not much else he can do til stars sort it. If he hadnt then id understand peoples concerns.. but you have seen the email *awaits the 'thats a fake email posts'*.
I dont even have any money tied up. Just annoys me this kinda thing happens, there is a knock on effect to grass roots players who are getting better and looking to sell action.

As I say nothing to do with me, I also understand your loyalty to your friend, but you have to admit the stories made up were ridiculous to stall time.

PM's are no good to people, makes it look even shadier.

His account is not blocked by the way ffs lol
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Old 08-15-2012, 09:31 AM   #372
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Hello,

PokerStars is not a party to this staking arrangement, and consequently, we will not be able to become involved in this dispute.

However, it has come to the attention of PokerStars that there have been claims that we have prevented the settlement of this staking deal.

Those claims are false. There is no impediment to the player from making any such real money transfers (subject to our normal rules regarding real money transfers).

Sincerely,

Michael J
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And there you have it.
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Old 08-15-2012, 09:50 AM   #373
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Hello,

PokerStars is not a party to this staking arrangement, and consequently, we will not be able to become involved in this dispute.

However, it has come to the attention of PokerStars that there have been claims that we have prevented the settlement of this staking deal.

Those claims are false. There is no impediment to the player from making any such real money transfers (subject to our normal rules regarding real money transfers).
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You lying scumbag scarer degening peoples money.

You going to regret this matey.
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Old 08-15-2012, 10:10 AM   #374
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Hello,

PokerStars is not a party to this staking arrangement, and consequently, we will not be able to become involved in this dispute.

However, it has come to the attention of PokerStars that there have been claims that we have prevented the settlement of this staking deal.

Those claims are false. There is no impediment to the player from making any such real money transfers (subject to our normal rules regarding real money transfers).

Sincerely,

Michael J
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Vanessa Selbst's got some swing over at PS.
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Old 08-15-2012, 10:10 AM   #375
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Hello,

PokerStars is not a party to this staking arrangement, and consequently, we will not be able to become involved in this dispute.

However, it has come to the attention of PokerStars that there have been claims that we have prevented the settlement of this staking deal.

Those claims are false. There is no impediment to the player from making any such real money transfers (subject to our normal rules regarding real money transfers).

Sincerely,

Michael J
PokerStars Security Team
Well, i guess michael said it.

NVG here we go.
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