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Old 08-06-2012, 02:10 PM   #251
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why doesn't dl184 just buy scarer's debt at 90 cents on the dollar right now? i'm sure investors would take it since their expectation is much closer to $0, and he could make a few quick Gs...if he's so sure it's getting paid back right away.

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Old 08-06-2012, 02:37 PM   #252
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This was one of the first threads I read in 2+2 when I made my account, and having followed it to this point, I am absolutely speechless. GL to everyone that bought action.
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Old 08-06-2012, 02:37 PM   #253
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I just offered to buy all his debt and he refused as he wants to pay everyone off himself.. which is fair enough. Like i said, i know the guy personally and he is cool and you will get your money. I didn't need to post on here to reassure all of you and David certainly didn't tell me to either. I'm in the same boat as you guys with the exception that i KNOW we will ALL get it back shortly. Not much point in me posting further as I have said everything twice now. Later.
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Old 08-06-2012, 02:54 PM   #254
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Scarer has now rejected two offers from others to buy his debt.
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Old 08-06-2012, 03:08 PM   #255
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Since I have good friends tied up in this mess/ Im going to give Scarer till next monday to come up with a payment plan! If he does not start paying out or get this sorted out

Ill file the complaint with the F.B.I. internet fraud department which is found here

http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

Make a choice!, your name going into this database wont look for you in the long run so i suggest you man up and come clean.
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Old 08-06-2012, 03:46 PM   #256
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David - we have all been patient up to this point however we are all close to the end of our tether. Please ensure you don't let us down this time and actually get this fixed. It's sad that due to how this has been handled by you so far we end up having to doubt that you've been involved in something as unpleasant as a mugging.
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Old 08-06-2012, 05:12 PM   #257
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Then just ****ing accept the bet
His account is froze obv... so he comes back and stars **** him about and the time passes.. i lose.. OK i will bet that he will pay everyone in full by the end of the month... however much u like to bet also.
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Old 08-06-2012, 05:37 PM   #258
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His account is froze obv... so he comes back and stars **** him about and the time passes.. i lose.. OK i will bet that he will pay everyone in full by the end of the month... however much u like to bet also.
From wednesday to end of this week to "shortly" and now till end of the month. I really need a chill pill right now.
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Old 08-06-2012, 05:52 PM   #259
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Thats when he thinks.. he cant control what stars do mate.. if u read below you would see that I have already wrote that... i was only covering myself for that bet.. but forget it... just wait for your money and have a nice life. Later.
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Old 08-06-2012, 09:08 PM   #260
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I just offered to buy all his debt and he refused as he wants to pay everyone off himself.. which is fair enough. Like i said, i know the guy personally and he is cool and you will get your money. I didn't need to post on here to reassure all of you and David certainly didn't tell me to either. I'm in the same boat as you guys with the exception that i KNOW we will ALL get it back shortly. Not much point in me posting further as I have said everything twice now. Later.
Must be nice to get immediate responses....
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:23 PM   #261
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This is pathetic. Your clearly a clever guy so you must realise how rediculous all this sounds. Stop lieing and man up. I hope you sort this out. I just find what your saying to have happened completely rediculous and your friend is equally rediculous. You don't have the money... SHOCK!!!! everyone already knows this. just admitt it and start working with your investors and something will be figured out and then maybe it won't be so embarassing for everyone involved. I have never ever seen a thread like this where the communication has been this poor and then everything has turned out fine. Another kid puts yet another black eye on the poker community, yay
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Old 08-06-2012, 11:15 PM   #262
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can we all email stars saying he owes 40k? maybe that'll help the process of "unfreezing" his account
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Old 08-06-2012, 11:26 PM   #263
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stars wont repsond to emails like that.


they dont wanna get in the middle of anything like this
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Old 08-07-2012, 12:20 AM   #264
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Since I have good friends tied up in this mess/ Im going to give Scarer till next monday to come up with a payment plan! If he does not start paying out or get this sorted out

Ill file the complaint with the F.B.I. internet fraud department which is found here

http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

Make a choice!, your name going into this database wont look for you in the long run so i suggest you man up and come clean.
**** just got real.
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Old 08-07-2012, 12:27 AM   #265
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This is pathetic. Your clearly a clever guy so you must realise how rediculous all this sounds. Stop lieing and man up. I hope you sort this out. I just find what your saying to have happened completely rediculous and your friend is equally rediculous. You don't have the money... SHOCK!!!! everyone already knows this. just admitt it and start working with your investors and something will be figured out and then maybe it won't be so embarassing for everyone involved. I have never ever seen a thread like this where the communication has been this poor and then everything has turned out fine. Another kid puts yet another black eye on the poker community, yay
Your post is radiculous.

If Scarer doesn't have the money, nothing really matters.
If Scarer did get mugged and has the money online than he has a poorly run package + really unfortunate set of circumstances.

Just let it play out.
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Old 08-07-2012, 02:45 AM   #266
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I hate messing with threads awaiting late payments but the posts are getting ridic.

I feel for the investors.
Scarer is on his last slim chance here before the legal threats, etc. will be persued.

In the mean time the trolling and the "I'll betchas" will no longer be tolerated itt.
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Old 08-07-2012, 05:32 AM   #267
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Ok iv been holding this back for a couple of days to see wether he would come in and post an update himself.

I sent a message to my friend Martin who is a live pro from Glasgow who has been playing in the US all summer to find out if he knew anything about David (he is one of the privet investors listed in David's posts).

31st july. We were having some general chat about his trip etc

me: 'btw u heard anything about David Kirkpatrick? 2+2 is blowing up at him because he hasn't paid anyone or let them know whats happening
martin: yeah he is meant to be coming out to AC this week i'll sort it out for you when he arrives.
me: is he not going home? he posted on the forum he was going home and would pay everyone

His reply to that message didnt respond to that question but I doubt he knows much more because I dont think he has ever been on 2+2 or knows what its all about.

I sent him this message earlier today
'2+2 starting to go really nuts on David. u had word from him?' havent had a response yet.

When he responds im going to try and get his phone number and find out whats going on.

The most annoying thing about this for me is i reccomended this to a few people and posted links to this package in the HU regs thread. I genuinely thought David was a good investment and thought he would handle this very professionally.

The guys who he might be meeting up with have pieces of this and are friends of mine so he basically has no chance of scamming me but if it turns out that others don't get their money back and i do then il give mine to chairty or something appropriate.

I will post again if I find out anything else.
Can you confirm if this is Martin that plays live in Alea Glasgow mostly, was in Vegas and now AC with Dean H from Glasgow?
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Old 08-07-2012, 06:55 AM   #268
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Your post is radiculous.

If Scarer doesn't have the money, nothing really matters.
If Scarer did get mugged and has the money online than he has a poorly run package + really unfortunate set of circumstances.

Just let it play out.
Exactly.. everyone needs to calm down.. If u dont have ur funds by the end of the week then u can freak out as hard as u want.. I dont appreciate being called a scumbag as i took time out my day to ressaure everyone that its gonna be sorted when i didnt need to do.. Thread is way out of control guys.. wayyyy out of control, and i assume its people trolling as if u invest money.. sometimes uncontrollable circumstances occur, thats how life works. Please dont pick holes in this post and just wait for your fund which u have been TOLD ARE COMING!
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Old 08-07-2012, 07:24 AM   #269
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People aren't freaking out. Your friend is mostly ignoring everyone in this thread, He takes a trip to AC that he doesn't tell anybody about, his stars account magically becomes frozen and then on top of this hes the victim of a nasty gang mugging. He doesn't seem to have any good excuse for not being in this thread more often than he has busy. He has told people multiple times they will be paid and haven't. I don't think the thread is way out of line, I think your friend is way out of line. If this gets sorted then fine but scarer has noone to blame but himself here and you should be worrying about your friends actions alot more than this threads content. not gonna post in here again but hope it all gets sorted
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Old 08-07-2012, 07:37 AM   #270
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People aren't freaking out. Your friend is mostly ignoring everyone in this thread, He takes a trip to AC that he doesn't tell anybody about, his stars account magically becomes frozen and then on top of this hes the victim of a nasty gang mugging. He doesn't seem to have any good excuse for not being in this thread more often than he has busy. He has told people multiple times they will be paid and haven't. I don't think the thread is way out of line, I think your friend is way out of line. If this gets sorted then fine but scarer has noone to blame but himself here and you should be worrying about your friends actions alot more than this threads content. not gonna post in here again but hope it all gets sorted
He is igroning everyone in this thread cos its got way outta line.. is it his fault? yes, but I have already told you that hes told me that its getting sorted this week when hes home, do u think he wants to post in here and just take abuse? no.. def not.. I dont see why people keep posting about hes in AC blah blah, we have been over that.. and once again.. its getting sorted his week when hes home. 100% last time im posting cos the same things are getting said over and over. gl
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Old 08-07-2012, 07:54 AM   #271
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He is igroning everyone in this thread cos its got way outta line.. is it his fault? yes, but I have already told you that hes told me that its getting sorted this week when hes home, do u think he wants to post in here and just take abuse? no.. def not.. I dont see why people keep posting about hes in AC blah blah, we have been over that.. and once again.. its getting sorted his week when hes home. 100% last time im posting cos the same things are getting said over and over. gl
Are you kidding? Let's list the ways that Scarer handled this badly.

1) Sold action at different markups in different threads
2) Sold VERY high percentages of action without letting people know. It's conceivable that he had events where he oversold/swapped (more than 100%)
3) Never once told his backers that he had a trip planned through the end of July (now well into August) and that backers would be waiting for payouts until then at a minimum
4) Has repeatedly failed to meet any of his promises (starting with PMing people which never happened and following on to the fact that he was supposed to be home over a week ago)
5) Didn't have the money to play events but had the money to go traveling all over the East Coast drinking and having fun. Most likely on OUR money
6) His summaries have consistently been off from how many events he did/didn't play and how much he owes his backers
7) Has refused not one but TWO offers by other people to pay back for him
8) Continues to tell lies and stories and makes excuses which is the EXACT behaviour of someone scamming/rolling. His Stars account is locked? Sorry, don't believe it. Show email history and proof. (Stars doesn't lock an account for transferring without play, they just don't let you cash out). He was mugged? Sorry, don't believe it. Copy of the police report will do. If no copy, it's another bald faced lie.
9) Numerous shill accounts have come in here defending him, almost certainly at his request and to continue stalling and deflecting the action.
10) Lied about not having internet access (yeah, something that is SO hard to get anywhere in the US) especially when he was logged on here 12 hours before (but of course didn't respond to anyone).

Fairly soon this thread title will be changed to something like "David Kilpatrick is a scammer and thief" which WILL show up in Google searches and the like and will continue to haunt him for a long time to come. This is aside from any legal action that backers decide to take. Telling us to wait and be patient is just GTFO time now.

If you are a friend and not just a sock puppet, I suggest you let him know that.

-BD
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:00 AM   #272
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Way out of line? We were told he's a ex-soldier, I bet he can take the "abuse", man up, and answer everyone. You don't ignore people you owe money to.

We're over the stuff that happened AC? We still have no proof of anything that's been said that has caused, once again, more delays.
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:04 AM   #273
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He is igroning everyone in this thread cos its got way outta line.. is it his fault? yes, but I have already told you that hes told me that its getting sorted this week when hes home, do u think he wants to post in here and just take abuse? no.. def not.. I dont see why people keep posting about hes in AC blah blah, we have been over that.. and once again.. its getting sorted his week when hes home. 100% last time im posting cos the same things are getting said over and over. gl
He could be lying to you too, addicts do that
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:11 AM   #274
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Are you kidding? Let's list the ways that Scarer handled this badly.

1) Sold action at different markups in different threads
2) Sold VERY high percentages of action without letting people know. It's conceivable that he had events where he oversold/swapped (more than 100%)
3) Never once told his backers that he had a trip planned through the end of July (now well into August) and that backers would be waiting for payouts until then at a minimum
4) Has repeatedly failed to meet any of his promises (starting with PMing people which never happened and following on to the fact that he was supposed to be home over a week ago)
5) Didn't have the money to play events but had the money to go traveling all over the East Coast drinking and having fun. Most likely on OUR money
6) His summaries have consistently been off from how many events he did/didn't play and how much he owes his backers
7) Has refused not one but TWO offers by other people to pay back for him
8) Continues to tell lies and stories and makes excuses which is the EXACT behaviour of someone scamming/rolling. His Stars account is locked? Sorry, don't believe it. Show email history and proof. (Stars doesn't lock an account for transferring without play, they just don't let you cash out). He was mugged? Sorry, don't believe it. Copy of the police report will do. If no copy, it's another bald faced lie.
9) Numerous shill accounts have come in here defending him, almost certainly at his request and to continue stalling and deflecting the action.
10) Lied about not having internet access (yeah, something that is SO hard to get anywhere in the US) especially when he was logged on here 12 hours before (but of course didn't respond to anyone).

Fairly soon this thread title will be changed to something like "David Kilpatrick is a scammer and thief" which WILL show up in Google searches and the like and will continue to haunt him for a long time to come. This is aside from any legal action that backers decide to take. Telling us to wait and be patient is just GTFO time now.

If you are a friend and not just a sock puppet, I suggest you let him know that.

-BD
Just wait until the end of the week for your money and an apology man..
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Old 08-07-2012, 09:51 AM   #275
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Can you confirm if this is Martin that plays live in Alea Glasgow mostly, was in Vegas and now AC with Dean H from Glasgow?
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Just wait until the end of the week for your money and an apology man..
I dno how well u know David but your posts in here have been pretty ridiculous and rude. The package was cancelled 2 months ago and David has posted updates 3 times and has failed to meet all his own deadlines. So I think investors have every right to be angry wether they are eventually paid back or not.

I'm also hearing that he was playing 10-20 40 NLH in the balagio an that he is known for losing 3k at blackjack when he is drunk. So it's not looking great. However we will know for sure next few days.
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