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Old 05-08-2018, 07:51 AM   #1
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Allen Kessler WSOP 2018 package

I will have action available for the 2018 WSOP.

Over the past 8 years at the wsop I've made 5 final tables, 3 of which were in championship events with elite fields; and have cashed 48 times for over $900,000.

I usually take about 30-40% of my own action and sell the rest at markup.

I'm looking to find one investor, or a single investment group to scoop up the entire package. It's much easier record keeping and logistically that way.

If I don't find that type of deal I will sell shares of each package to individuals until I get to a percentage for myself that I'm comfortable with.

Below is my wsop schedule for 2018.

I'm not playing more than one event at a time.

I may skip some early events that are same day as later mixed events.

Below is a summary of my past 8 years wsop results since I began playing a full schedule.

Results are volatile. Payouts are top heavy and a few years I've had several deep runs but no big breakthrough cashes.

2017 8 cashes 1 final table total $90,198
2016 6 cashes total $23,804
2015 8 cashes total $34,423
2014 5 cashes 1 final table ($50k poker players championship) total $154,056
2013 3 cashes total $12,212
2012 6 cashes total $49,691
2011 3 cashes 2 final tables ($1500 plh, $5k plo8) total $178,155
2010 9 cashes 1 final table ($10k stud 8) total $376,480

Past 8 years 48 cashes 5 final tables over $900,000 in cashes.

Rather than charge a flat markup, as I have done in the past, this year I split the events into 3 groups.

Group 1 $1500 and below high value no limits and mixed games. Markup 1.20 (Ari Engel pre reserved 10%)

Group 2 Events over $1500 but less than $10,000 Markup 1.1

Group 3 $10K mixed events. Markup 1.05

There are about 50 events listed, but due to overlap of making day twos, or skipping certain early events to play a 3pm mixed event, I usually end up playing around 30 events.

Structures have been revised this year to be deeper play throughout, which should benefit me.

This year some lower buyin events have 1 reentry, or unlimited reentry. I will add a cushion to cover that.

I will obtain an official printout from the rio of the exact events I I I played and this will be available for all investors.

The $50k 8 game is not included and would be sold at par if I play this year.

I require a deposit pre wsop from each investor for each 2.5% share they would like. Investors can buy any amount of any package 2.5% or higher.

If you have interest in the entire package (less Ari pre reserved share of group 1) or a percentage of the one of the packages please comment below or message me privately.

No investor is confirmed until I post that they are in. I retain the option to sell all the action to a single investor at any time before the wsop starts.

Refunds for all unplayed events. Buyin amounts for each package are estimates.

Troll comments will not get a response.


WSOP 2018 schedule:

Group 1 (1.2 markup)

Using a $55,000 buy in amount (probably will be less)

$55,000 X 1.2 = $66,000

2.5% = $1650
5% = $3300
10% = $6600
20% = $13,200

5/31 $1500 Omaha 8 3pm
6/1 $365 Giant 7pm
6/2 $565 Colossus 10am
6/2 $565 Colossus 5pm
6/3 $565 Colossus 10am
6/3 $565 Colossus 5pm
6/3 $365 PLO Giant 7pm
6/4 $565 Colossus 10am
6/4 $1500 Dealers Choice 3pm
6/4 $565 Colossus 5pm
6/5 $1500 Nolimit Big blind ante 11am
6/6 $1500 Horse 11am
6/7 $1500 6 max 11am
6/8 $565 PLO 10am
6/8 $565 PLO 5pm
6/8 $365 Giant 7pm
6/9 $1500 Millionaire maker 10am
6/9 $1500 8 game mix 3pm
6/10 $1500 Millionaire maker 10am
6/10 $365 PLO giant 7pm
6/11 $1500 Stud 8 3pm
6/12 $1000 PLO 11am
6/13 $1500 2-7 triple draw 3pm
6/14 $1500 PLO 11am
6/14 $1500 Stud 3pm
6/15 $365 Giant 7pm
6/16 $1000 Double stack nolimit 11am
6/16 $1500 Mixed Omaha 8 3pm
6/17 $1000 Double stack nolimit 11am
6/17 $365 PLO giant 7pm
6/18 $1500 Nolimit 11am
6/19 $1500 Shootout 11am
6/20 $1500 Limit Holdem 11am
6/22 $1000 Turbo 11am
6/22 $365 Giant 7pm
6/23 $1500 Monster Stack 10am
6/24 $1500 Monster Stack 10am
6/24 $1500 Razz 3pm
6/24 $365 PLO Giant 7pm
6/25 $1500 Bounty 11am
6/26 $1500 PLO 8 11am
6/27 $1000 Tag Team 11am
6/29 $1000 Bounty turbo 11am
6/29 $365 Giant 7pm
6/30 $888 Crazy 8s 10am
6/30 $888 Crazy 8s 5pm
7/1 $888 Crazy 8s 10am
7/1 $888 Crazy 8s 5pm
7/1 $365 PLO giant 7pm
7/5 $1500 Nolimit 3pm
7/6 $1500 PLO bounty 3pm
7/7 $1111 One Drop 11am
7/8 $1111 One Drop 11am
7/9 $1111 One Drop 11am
7/10 $1500 PLO/Nolimit 3pm
7/11 $1000 Double stack 11am
7/12 $1500 turbo 11am
7/13 $1500 turbo 11am
7/14 $1500 turbo 11am


Group 2 (1.1 markup)

Using a $30,000 Buy-in amount (probably less)

$30,000 X 1.1 = $33,000

2.5% = $825
5% = $1650
10% = $3300
20% = $6600

6/2 $2500 Mixed triple draw 3pm (1 reentry)
6/8 $5k nolimit 3pm
6/11 $2620 Marathon 11am (May late or reg day 2)
6/12 $3000 Horse 3pm
6/19 $2500 Big bet mix 3pm
6/21 $2500 Nolimit 11am
6/22 $2500 Omaha 8/Stud 8 3pm
6/26 $3000 Nolimit 3pm
7/8 $3000 PLO 3pm
7/9 $3000 6 Max 3pm
7/12 $3000 Horse 3pm

Group 3 (1.05 markup)

Using $70,000 as buyin

$70,000 X 1.05 = $73,500

5% = $3675
10% = $7350

6/3 $10k Omaha 8 3pm
6/7 $10k Dealers Choice 3pm
6/12 $10k Horse 3pm
6/18 $10k Stud 3pm
6/21 $10k 2-7 triple draw 3pm
6/23 $10k PLO 3pm
6/27 $10k Razz 3pm
6/29 $10k PLO 8 3pm
7/1 $10k Stud 8 3pm
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Old 05-09-2018, 02:39 PM   #2
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Re: Allen Kessler WSOP 2018 package

Bring on the trolls
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Old 05-11-2018, 01:28 AM   #3
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Re: Allen Kessler WSOP 2018 package

Times are tough when the trolls can't be bothered to post.

Played with you in a circuit main last year. You late regged, folded for 5 levels then started moaning how bad you run. Then when you were busted by a rec gave it the classic "how can you call with that" or words to that affect.

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Old 05-11-2018, 10:47 AM   #4
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Re: Allen Kessler WSOP 2018 package

Your real name?
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Old 05-11-2018, 11:43 AM   #5
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Re: Allen Kessler WSOP 2018 package

Easy enough to see from the threads i made and its not relevant. Just sharing my experience and its all true. Thought berating fish for bad play stopped after a year or 2 of playing.
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Old 05-11-2018, 03:23 PM   #6
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Re: Allen Kessler WSOP 2018 package

If anyone wants to buy smaller shares or use crypto or credit card to buy acrtion, the same packages are now on stakekings.com site.
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Old 05-13-2018, 03:15 PM   #7
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Re: Allen Kessler WSOP 2018 package

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If anyone wants to buy smaller shares or use crypto or credit card to buy acrtion, the same packages are now on stakekings.com site.

Credit card huh? sure encourage people to take on high interest debt

considering you get trolled as much as you do.. you actually need to go the extra mile to show that those last few years at the wsop even with the low buyins that you profited enough to justify a 1.2 markup. just some advice
I highly doubt you did, but hey i could be wrong.
but you berating others is completely standard from those i hear that play with you.



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Old 05-14-2018, 09:34 PM   #8
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Re: Allen Kessler WSOP 2018 package

I've played in a couple tournaments at the same table with AK. Never observed him berate one person. Not saying this is his MO...just my observation.
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Old 05-14-2018, 09:46 PM   #9
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Re: Allen Kessler WSOP 2018 package

I'd like to know how much $ Kessler is down in his career playing tournaments, it is easily in the seven figures.

He will tout his big cashes (not that there have been any lately, however) and ignore the weeks, months, years even that he goes without anything significant while playing insane volume for a live player.
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:41 AM   #10
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I'd like to know how much $ Kessler is down in his career playing tournaments, it is easily in the seven figures.

He will tout his big cashes (not that there have been any lately, however) and ignore the weeks, months, years even that he goes without anything significant while playing insane volume for a live player.
grinding slots at the M in spare time as well
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Old 05-15-2018, 03:22 AM   #11
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Re: Allen Kessler WSOP 2018 package

Took awhile for the trolls to surface. Yes I must be down millions. Where did the millions come from?
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Old 05-15-2018, 03:52 AM   #12
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Took awhile for the trolls to surface. Yes I must be down millions. Where did the millions come from?
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Bring on the trolls
You did invite them!

Feel i should clarify on what i said before. Wasn't like you went crazy at the guy just amused me that a tournament professional would say to a rec "how can you call with that". Its the most fishy statement a poker player can make in my opinion. Not that it will happen but if all these recs who get schooled on correct play actually listened poker wouldn't be profitable anymore.
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Old 05-16-2018, 01:10 AM   #13
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Took awhile for the trolls to surface. Yes I must be down millions. Where did the millions come from?
You ARE down millions, it’s a mathematical certainty. Where did the millions come from? Trust fund, inheritance, investing, ect—nobody knows really. But if you want to parade around live events like your some crusher, you’re only fooling yourself.
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Old 05-16-2018, 03:06 AM   #14
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Took awhile for the trolls to surface. Yes I must be down millions. Where did the millions come from?


considering i gave a relevant suggestion and you ignored.. just shows how the stigma of old people being stuck in their ways and not adapting to change is 100% change.
can you actually go through your buyins and show that the markup your charging is justified for someone to have a piece of "the great allen kessler"
I doubt it

Maybe one day you will take criticism

and fyi i know for a fact you grind those slots at the M
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Old 05-16-2018, 06:43 AM   #15
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considering i gave a relevant suggestion and you ignored.. just shows how the stigma of old people being stuck in their ways and not adapting to change is 100% change.
can you actually go through your buyins and show that the markup your charging is justified for someone to have a piece of "the great allen kessler"
I doubt it

Maybe one day you will take criticism

and fyi i know for a fact you grind those slots at the M
I wouldn't worry about the need to show the markup is justified. Nobody is interested in buying any pieces anyway by the looks of it, lol.
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Old 05-16-2018, 11:49 AM   #16
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You know. First off, allowing trolls to even post in these staking threads is beyond ridiculous. This is business. Its his business, not yours. You dont like his markup, him, or whatever your issue is...you dont have to buy from him. Its as simple as that. The trolls shouldnt be allowed in this section in the first place.

Secondly, youre no better than bullies. I get people dont like him, but to come and rag on the guy, on the internet of all places, is weak and makes you look like children. Its kind of sad, but, its normal 2p2. Give it a rest for once.
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Old 05-16-2018, 07:51 PM   #17
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You know. First off, allowing trolls to even post in these staking threads is beyond ridiculous. This is business. Its his business, not yours. You dont like his markup, him, or whatever your issue is...you dont have to buy from him. Its as simple as that. The trolls shouldnt be allowed in this section in the first place.

Secondly, youre no better than bullies. I get people dont like him, but to come and rag on the guy, on the internet of all places, is weak and makes you look like children. Its kind of sad, but, its normal 2p2. Give it a rest for once.
First day on the internet??

You say it's "business. his business" but he's posting a free ad in a public forum AND he invited the trolls in his 2nd post.

Personally, I think it's much more childish to post packages year after year that you know are bad value yet continue to claim otherwise with 0 evidence to back it up.

I'd like to thank the trolls for making sure potential investors know the reality of what OP is selling.
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Old 05-16-2018, 08:26 PM   #18
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If he was a scammer, thief, ect.....then yes, I would be ok with trolls outting him. We should all police our industry when it comes to that. However, if someone is going to buy pieces of action...it is their duty to do their due diligence on whether the package or value is on the up and up for them....not yours or some trolls. A lot of people just dont like him, so they run their mouth and ruin HIS business for no other reason then to be douche bags. What if shoe was on the other foot?

If I dont want a piece, I dont buy it. Simple as that. Funny people talk about markup, but I see worse selling for more and vice versa. Once again, its the buyers choice and no one elses.

If a person aint buying a piece, and he is not a thief whose stiffed investors, then people who are not here to do business should stay out and that goes for EVERY ONES packages.
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Old 05-16-2018, 08:31 PM   #19
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Re: Allen Kessler WSOP 2018 package

I have always been a longtime lurker of 2+2 and had an extra 30 mins of time on my hands to compile some available results of Allen's 2017 WSOP. Since he loves boasting about his cashes so much, let it be public knowledge of his results available via poker news about his cashes.

Granted, I could not add shootout events, or events less than $1000 (The Giant, Collosus, etc.. in which he fired most likely multiple times). Also, if there are any other events he played but poker news did not report his chip stack then they are not on the list.

So in that case, this is a generous reporting of his 2017 WSOP Cashes this summer. I did NOT include WSOP Europe events, which I find quite convenient that when it comes to selling his WSOP Summer package he is including results from a final table of an event in Rozvadov. I imagine his Total Buyins are around $3,000-$20,000 higher than what I reported due to him participating in the famed "Last Longers" in the mixed game events.

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To add to that...he divulged all of his results since he started playing a full schedule and said they are volatile, and that he hasnt had a major breakthrough cash. I dont see ANYWHERE in the post where he isnt being upfront or where he is misleading investors. Once again, it comes to peoples dislike of him over anything else and thats BS. You dont have to like him, you can loathe him to your hearts content, but to try to ruin his business for no other reason then your opinion of him or youre against his strategy or how he plays is crap. Once again, YOU dont have to buy any.
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Im not defending Allen as a person. I have met him a couple of times but not long enough to form an opinion one way or another, nor do I care either way. I also am not sticking up for his playing style either...everyone knows he plays nitty...thats basic common knowledge by now isnt it? What I am sticking up for is what is right and wrong when it comes to this part of 2p2 and people derailing other peoples BUSINESS for BS reasons as these. He divulged his results. Hes not a scammer. If someone wants to buy they can, you dont have too...end of story. But trolls should not be allowed. Thats my opinion and point. Last Im saying on it.
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Im not defending Allen as a person. I have met him a couple of times but not long enough to form an opinion one way or another, nor do I care either way. I also am not sticking up for his playing style either...everyone knows he plays nitty...thats basic common knowledge by now isnt it? What I am sticking up for is what is right and wrong when it comes to this part of 2p2 and people derailing other peoples BUSINESS for BS reasons as these. He divulged his results. Hes not a scammer. If someone wants to buy they can, you dont have too...end of story. But trolls should not be allowed. Thats my opinion and point. Last Im saying on it.
Showing what he cashed for, and obscuring his results by adding 2017 WSOP Europe to his 2017 Las Vegas isn't being forthcoming and transparent with results. This is the classic question "But how much did you lose though?" The only results in this thread have been by me!
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Are you doing this for EVERY ONES packages or just Allens? I dont see ANYONE else divulging what they lost or spent, only the events they cashed. Show me one package where they show ALL their results, even the tourneys they didnt cash. Ill wait.

Also, he says WSOP results. Not VEGAS. So how is him adding WSOP Europe misleading? Isnt that a WSOP result?? Not to mention, people can go right to Hendon Mob and verify. Once again, your points are invalid.

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Old 05-17-2018, 03:11 AM   #24
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Are you doing this for EVERY ONES packages or just Allens? I dont see ANYONE else divulging what they lost or spent, only the events they cashed. Show me one package where they show ALL their results, even the tourneys they didnt cash. Ill wait.

Also, he says WSOP results. Not VEGAS. So how is him adding WSOP Europe misleading? Isnt that a WSOP result?? Not to mention, people can go right to Hendon Mob and verify. Once again, your points are invalid.
so to revert back to the main point. he invited trolls
and it is also his duty to show that he is a good buy and the can justify asking 1.2 markup.
And to help the community why shouldnt people provide feedback?
What i posted about him was the truth as well lol.
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He mentions the trolls because of his past experience on this site where hes constantly berated (which he does invite sometimes mind you), so Ill give you this point somewhat. However, in this section of 2p2 I do not think it belongs and I stand by that wholeheartedly.

As far as the 1.2....this comes back to, if you dont think the value is correct, then you dont have to buy it. He can try to sell it for 1.5 if he wants, hell he can try at 10.0. Has zero to do with you, its his business...not yours. Up to the buyer, not outside influence that is rooted in hate or because someone despises the seller.

Theres a difference between providing feedback and berating someone or "trolling". Once again, if he was a scammer or a thief this would be totally different. We should police and provide feedback in that case. You talking about him grinding the slots at the M has ZERO to do with this package, what its worth in value, ect.

Truth or not, has zero place here.
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